Me neither. I wait until they are dead.
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I agree. But is not any form of torture equally distasteful? The Spanish Inquisition invented new torture and that was just to get confessions! After the confessions death followed usually! All approved by the Pope of course.
None are without sin there's no doubt about that and I'm sure I'd have a few stripes on my back for my portion of law breaking at LEAST. The Catholic has been the perpetrator of crimes against humanity the like of which the world has never known. I'm not saying Calvin invented bad behavior. The poster said describing Calvin is like describing most of us and I disagree. Most of us do not live in the days of mid-eval style OT justice. Drive evil from among you was the order of the day and so was executions for adultery and in extreme cases badly behaving children who disrespect their parents, because it says in the OT that first you warn then beat the child, then bring the child before the elders and they beat him then either banish or kill him to drive evil from among you. It was just OT law. We know more about Christ's teachings now to know that we don't need to live by OT law. Kind of like Christian Sharyia Law 500 years ago.
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None are without sin there's no doubt about that and I'm sure I'd have a few stripes on my back for my portion of law breaking at LEAST. The Catholic has been the perpetrator of crimes against humanity the like of which the world has never known. I'm not saying Calvin invented bad behavior. The poster said describing Calvin is like describing most of us and I disagree. Most of us do not live in the days of mid-eval style OT justice. Drive evil from among you was the order of the day and so was executions for adultery and in extreme cases badly behaving children who disrespect their parents, because it says in the OT that first you warn then beat the child, then bring the child before the elders and they beat him then either banish or kill him to drive evil from among you. It was just OT law. We know more about Christ's teachings now to know that we don't need to live by OT law. Kind of like Christian Sharyia Law 500 years ago.
It's true that Calvin was asked to remain in Geneva and be its moral compass with police powers thrown in. That was a common position in those days. It's also true that he ran a tight ship on social activities in a way that none of us would be comfortable with. But he was nothing compared to the Inquisitions and even the everyday persecutions of heretics in earlier times.
I am glad I didn't live then. I like living in the 20th/21st century USA too much, and am thankful the Good Lord let me be here now instead of back then, and here in the country, not Iran or Sudan or Yemen or some place like that, in this or other past centuries.
Torquemada, Calvin, Cotton Mather, etc., don't do nothin' for me. The only Christian leader I truly admire, other than my pastor and Billy Graham, is Jesus Christ. I have no more use for Jesse Jackson than I do Jimmy Swaggert. Well, Torquemada at least was cool in the Mel Brooks movie "History of the World". The Inquisition, what a show, the Inquisition, here we go, I know that you're wishing we would go away..... but the Inquisition's here, and here to stay!
Sounds like the "Christians" in positions of authority in those days were kinda like the ayatollahs and mullahs in the Muslim world now. I worship Jesus Christ, and him only, and don't submit to any "ecclesiastical" (or whatever ten dollar word you want to use) authority. Neither Calvin nor Servetus mean jack crap to me.
Submitting to 'no' authority makes YOU the authority, which is not what Christ initiated.
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Juries don't inject the potassium chloride. Calvin didn't light the match. That was my point in the post. If you'd bothered to check the other links at the bottom of the article I posted the link for, you'd see he fought to preserve Servetus' life. Burning at the stake was not his decision, but at the time, heresy was a state crime. That is foreign to us, we can't wrap our heads around it. But it is the truth, and crime is always subject to appropriate punishment. Death was not appropriate, and Calvin tried to save Servetus. But most people are going to believe what they want to believe anyway. I don't know why I bother.
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