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A Dangerous Practice: Enneagram

Catholic interest in the Enneagram persists

The Enneagram is a nine-sided figure that looks like a theorem straight from Euclid’s Elements. Instead of teaching basic mathematical facts, however, the Enneagram purports to teach a path to enlightenment, a path that Church leaders find worrisome.


In 2000, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops prepared a draft statement, “A Brief Report on the Origins of the Enneagram,” cautioning against its use. It was never published, but it can be found on the website of the National Catholic Reporter. In 2003, the Vatican’s document “Jesus Christ, Bearer of the Water of Life” discussed the dangers of New Age spirituality, and mentioned the Enneagram in its glossary. In 2004, the USCCB Committee on Doctrine released “Report on the Use of the Enneagram: Can It Serve as a True Instrument of Christian Spiritual Growth?” for the conference’s internal use. Father Thomas Weinandy of the USCCB’s Secretariat of Doctrine provided that report for this article.

Last February, Archbishop Thomas Wenski of Miami explained Catholic teaching on the Enneagram and related subjects in an online column titled, “New Age is Old Gnosticism.” He wrote that the Enneagram is a “pseudo-psychological exercise supposedly based on Eastern mysticism, [which] introduces ambiguity into the doctrine and life of the Christian faith and therefore cannot be happily used to promote growth in an authentic Christian spirituality.” The archbishop’s column is the clearest available teaching for the laity on this topic, and a neat summary of the bishops’ reports.

The Enneagram redefines sin, among other fundamental concepts, by simply associating faults with personality types, which is particularly tempting in a cultural climate of irresponsibility and narcissism. It encourages an unhealthy self-absorption about one’s own “type,” so that the type is at fault rather than the person. This gives rise to a deterministic mindset at odds with Christian freedom.

Religious who promote it
Continued- http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Item/994/a_dangerous_practice.aspx
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Hogwash.

We used the Enneagram in an intentional community I lived in so that we could get to know each other better.
Basically, it lets you know the basic way in which you approach things and "why". For example, I am a "one" and I have equally strong 9 and 2 wings. The personality profile of when I go into stress and nourished (I can never remember the word for the opposite of stress) fit me very well. It helped me understand myself and my community mates when we got into fights and allowed each other to put ourselves in their shoes, to become more empathetic. What was even more important was for us to realize that we are more than just are numbers and need to realize that we are in control of how we react. Even though I am prone to be judgmental to myself and others does not mean I have the right to actually judge them. If I am feeling down, like most 1's I tend to become overly withdrawn -- however that is the opposite of what I need to be doing, although it may be "natural" it does not make it good.
To me, the Enneagram is just as useful as the Myers-Briggs personality test.
Does the Enneagram have new-age origins? Maybe. Does it need to be used in such a way? Nope.
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The Enneagram is just another Occultic thing, isn't it? If so then of course it is dangerous.
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I never heard of Enneagram before 40 seconds ago and now I just really really want one.


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Originally Posted by Ave Maria View Post
The Enneagram is just another Occultic thing, isn't it? If so then of course it is dangerous.
You're thinking of the Pentagram.
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I never heard of it either. I wanna poke it or tap on it or... is it vegetable, animal or mineral? If animal, I dont need any more pets...

Edit: Something like a rubic's cube sorta? I am reading now ...
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Originally Posted by FullyMT View Post
You're thinking of the Pentagram.
A pentagram is one of the most interesting and elegant shape in all of geometric design. There are literal books on the subject of pentagram and their applications in art, design and structural engineering

What's this occult thing you're talking about.
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More than I ever want to know.

How the Enneagram Personality System Works

I make no judgement on this whole subject as what I know wouldn't fit into a thimble.
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I thought an enneagram was some kind of brainwave chart.
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Yes the ennegram is rather like the occult. Read the book by Father Mitch Pacwa (of EWTN fame)--Catholics and the New Age.
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