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8th May 2012, 01:32 PM
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Reps: 178,636,873,034,820,960 (power: 178,636,873,034,823) | | Originally Posted by mattyoung  So what you're saying is that once you have accepted Jesus and you, for arguments sake, steal a movie from the store, you cannot be forgiven because you know it's a sin?
Read the verses I gave, it's The Word of God, I justed quoted from it.
It says here: 1 Corinthians 6:10
Nor cheats (swindlers and thieves), nor greedy graspers, nor drunkards, nor foulmouthed revilers and slanderers, nor extortioners and robbers will inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God.
But if you truly repent so.
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8th May 2012, 02:43 PM
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Reps: 8,469,378,603,362,012 (power: 8,469,378,603,364) | | Originally Posted by Jonathan95 Read the verses I gave, it's The Word of God, I justed quoted from it.
It says here:
1 Corinthians 6:10
Nor cheats (swindlers and thieves), nor greedy graspers, nor drunkards, nor foulmouthed revilers and slanderers, nor extortioners and robbers will inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God
But if you truly repent so.
This scripture is talking about "unrepentant sinners" only. Those who choose to stay in these lifestyles, with no intention of changing.
Originally Posted by mattyoung So what you're saying is that once you have accepted Jesus and you, for arguments sake, steal a movie from the store, you cannot be forgiven because you know it's a sin?
You will always be forgiven as long as you repent and have life. That, however, does not excuse sinning , because like those scriptures stated, knowingly sinning and remaining unrepentant will result in death.
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Reps: 178,636,873,034,820,960 (power: 178,636,873,034,823) | | Originally Posted by Drayzon This scripture is talking about "unrepentant sinners" only. Those who choose to stay in these lifestyles, with no intention of changing.
Yes thought so too.
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3rd June 2012, 10:43 PM
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Let's go with something we do know- In James chapter 4,(the last verse) he states very clearly: "To him who knoweth to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin."
Now let's break this down: Whatever you believe is the right thing to do and you do not do that but do the opposite it is sin TO YOU. There are some that will tell you that nothing is wrong with it. Others will say as long as you do not lust its ok. What I tell you is this: To the person who doubts they should do this but does it anyways, to that person it is sin. The easiest way to diagnose that this is sin, is once you have done the opposite of what you believe to be right, do you feel guilty or remorse? If so, then yes, it is sin. The reason I say this is because condemnation always follows doubt.
Here's some more scriptual evidence:
Look at Romans 14:22-23 for a moment-
"Hast thou faith? have [it] to thyself before God. Happy [is] he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: for whatsoever [is] not of faith is sin. "
So, just by looking at this verse you will see that you will not feel condemned or guilty if you do something in faith. However, if you do something you doubt you should do, this is not being done in faith. And, if it's not done in faith , it is sin.
Hope this helps!
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4th June 2012, 01:11 PM
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Reps: 845,827,143,545,163,520 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Charles Spurgeon Nothing funny about it, and no I'm not married.
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Reps: 2,351,375,975,824,497 (power: 2,351,375,975,831) | | Originally Posted by Drayzon You will always be forgiven as long as you repent and have life. That, however, does not excuse sinning , because like those scriptures stated, knowingly sinning and remaining unrepentant will result in death.
so you can sin, ask for forgiveness an you'll be right?
So I can 'take care of business' and then ask for forgiveness and I'm good to go? |
15th June 2012, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles Spurgeon I'm still not in agreement with you cimbk,
I'm working on a Nursing degree, thus I've been through Anatomy and Physiology... the natural inclination of the testes in males is to build up a load of semen... and as I said before, and as someone else attested to... if you don't release it, it just builds up and hurts... and you get all sorts of immoral thoughts...
(Now, I don't know how it is in women, but between the two sexes both "parts" become easily engorged with blood, thus the arousal... obviously we have to keep our thoughts pure).
And again, I never said I didn't struggle with thoughts, but I capture them constantly so I won't sin against the Lord... Before I was saved, I had vile and wicked sexual thoughts all the time, then the Lord saved me... AND the only time I was truly convicted for masturbation was when I intentionally masturbated with sexual thoughts in mind... the Lord convicted me horrifically about it... every time I masturbate and don't give in to the sexual thoughts, I'm fine.
You guys really should just view it the same as urinating or excreting... seriously... We certainly don't shout from the rooftops that I just excreted, or I just urinated, now do we? The Lord's Word is just a general idea of what Christians will be doing.
This is probably the most liberal christian thing i have heard in quite a while, just because you can't stop does not make it right and your spreading false information to everyone on this forum. I used to masturbate 4 times or so a week, about 6 months ago I converted to Eastern Catholicism and my crave to masturbate went away, I haven't even cam close to masturbating in those 6 months, nvm actually doing it.(because I love god, I fear god, so i obey his commandments.) |
16th June 2012, 01:02 AM
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Reps: 38,415,843,668,655,128 (power: 38,415,843,668,656) | | Originally Posted by Agentle If lust is the main driving force for MB then I think it would be sin.
But then what of those who have wet dreams? Did they sin in their sleep?
Cheers
you cant sin in your sleep because you need to be aware of what your doing and have full consent to commit a sin, I honestly thought this was a basic teaching to all Christians... | | |
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