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Yes, I would support the Mujaheddin
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No, I not would support the Mujaheddin
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6th February 2012, 09:14 AM
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Reps: 21,142,423,111,673,436 (power: 0) | | None, because they never fought the war in the first place.
Now, name a single war Isolationism/Non-Interventionism started  |
7th February 2012, 07:53 PM
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Reps: 48,527,679,962,910,000 (power: 48,527,679,962,921) | | Originally Posted by SmellsLikeCurlyFries  None, because they never fought the war in the first place.
Now, name a single war Isolationism/Non-Interventionism started
You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs.
Agreed?
Good.
And you can't bring democracy to Iraq without wrecking the country first. |
7th February 2012, 09:46 PM
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Reps: 21,142,423,111,673,436 (power: 0) | | I REALLY hope you're just joking with all this, because I was beginning to like you  |
8th February 2012, 03:23 AM
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That's exactly what we did.
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8th February 2012, 06:39 PM
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Reps: 48,527,679,962,910,000 (power: 48,527,679,962,921) | | Originally Posted by SmellsLikeCurlyFries I REALLY hope you're just joking with all this, because I was beginning to like you
Sorry, no joke, look up the modern use of the phrase:
bring democracy
— vb 1. to destroy; devastate : the United States brought democracy to Iraq |
9th February 2012, 07:44 AM
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Reps: 325,583,815,600,460,416 (power: 325,583,815,600,491) | | Originally Posted by SmellsLikeCurlyFries Absolutely not. The Soviet Union would have inevitably collapsed eventually anyway. And if you look at the communist government of Afghanistan at the time and compare it to the Taliban government it turned into...
The phrasing here is a bit odd. Are you saying that the communist government turned into the Taliban?
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9th February 2012, 11:49 AM
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Reps: 21,142,423,111,673,436 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by USincognito The phrasing here is a bit odd. Are you saying that the communist government turned into the Taliban?
No, I meant the government went from being controlled by the Afghan communists to being controlled by the Taliban. Sorry I wasn't clear on that. |
10th February 2012, 07:09 PM
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Reps: 48,527,679,962,910,000 (power: 48,527,679,962,921) | | Originally Posted by SmellsLikeCurlyFries Absolutely not. The Soviet Union would have inevitably collapsed eventually anyway. ...
Have you totally forgotten the relentless march of Communism?
The Domino Theory?
The Communists never lose, they just keep on coming. Communism has now even taken over some of Latin America.
Anyone who can fight Communism and is willing to fight it is our friend. |
10th February 2012, 09:00 PM
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Reps: 48,527,679,962,910,000 (power: 48,527,679,962,921) | | | We supported Saddam Hussein in Iraq and his Ba'ath Party because they were ruthless and would take power to ensure the Socialists didn't get it, and after getting in would eliminate the socialists from the country.
Saddam was secular and we supported him.
The Saudis back the most fundamentalist Islamic state in the World, and they are our allies. Some of them ruined some buildings in New York a while back and killed lots of people, but they are still our allies.
They are Muslim and we support them.
Basically any government which is for the people is socialist and that is what we must stamp out.
Beyond that is just details.
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Reps: 3,659,947,394,162,196 (power: 3,659,947,394,164) | | Originally Posted by Zastava You have two choices, support the Mujaheddin, and history proceeds as normal, or refuse to support the insurgents, and the USSR crushed the insurgency by the mid-1980s, killing a number of leaders, including a certain young zealot named Osama bin Ladin. In 1989, it withdraws from Afghanistan, leaving a strong Soviet-aligned country behind. What is your choice?
Hypothetical history has many, many variables. I voted "yes", but would have included the caveat that we remain supportive of the newly-freed Afghan government to help them rebuild. Like the quote at the end of "Charlie Wilson's War" stated:
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we f****d up the endgame."
I would vote for changing how we conducted the endgame. It wouldn't have cost much in comparison to war itself or the results produced.
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