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Since the wages of sin is death, the amount to be paid is death. If you're paying the price, you die. If you accept Christ's death on your behalf, you don't ultimately die, you are resurrected to eternal life. This seems clear to me.
The term immortalization was first applied to cancer cells that expressed the telomere-lengthening enzymetelomerase, and thereby avoided apoptosis (cell death caused by intracellular mechanisms). Among the most commonly used cell lines are HeLa and Jurkat, both of which are immortalized cancer cell lines.
Normal stem cells and germ cells can also be said to be immortal (when humans refer to the cell line).
Immortal cell lines of cancer cells can be created by induction of oncogenes or loss of tumor suppressor genes. One way to induce immortality is through viral-mediated induction of the large T-antigen,[4
...yeah...
So to you, immortality does not mean immortality.
What else is new in regard to your poor comprehension and complicated efforts to reject the straight forward???
The loss of Telomerase in mitosis is what terminates a cell's life since it can not replace itself by dividing into two and starting life anew.
"Cellular aging, or senescence, is the process by which a cell becomes old and dies.
It is due to the shortening of chromosomal telomeres to the point that the chromosome reaches a critical length. Cellular aging is analogous to a wind up clock.
If the clock stays wound, a cell becomes immortal and constantly produces new cells. If the clock winds down, the cell stops producing new cells and dies. Our cells are constantly aging. Being able to make the body's cells live forever certainly creates some exciting possibilities.
Telomerase research could therefore yield important discoveries related to the aging process."
Since the wages of sin is death, the amount to be paid is death. If you're paying the price, you die. If you accept Christ's death on your behalf, you don't ultimately die, you are resurrected to eternal life. This seems clear to me.
Yes, we who have cultured the presence of Truth in our mind, and enhanced the growth of an Unconscious mind that will store and genetically encoded this facility of archetypal Truth, we will cheat death as did Christ.
We shall evolve and return as if born again, but enabled to "remember" former times inages passed:
Revelation 21:4-5 And God, (blessing them with Total Phylogenetic Consciousness: [Carl Jung]), shall wipe away, (in their awakened Unconscious Mind: [Freudian Hypothesis]), all tears from their eyes, (for life is a genetically rememberable continuum from one generation to the next living generation); and (in genetic memories of prior existences held in our Unconscious Mind) there shall be no more death (for we shall not all "sleep:" [1Co15:51], but total phylogenetic consciousness will have evolved), neither sorrow (for we, individually, are part of a living continuum of our own pasts, flowers upon our genetic vine), nor crying, (for we are happy in these revelations of reconstitution from our human gene pool), neither shall there be any more pain (as is circumvented by hypnosis even today): for the former things (in Modern Homo sapiens paradigm of the life experience) are passed away. And He, (the ancient, phylogenetic, Collective Unconscious Mind), that sat upon the throne (within the kingdom of the evolving Homoiousian sapiens' brain) said, Behold, (in this way, through evolution: [Gen 9:11-18]), I make all things (in human experience) new.And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true, (rational, and scientifically feasible), and (worthy of) faithful (belief).
...yeah...
So to you, immortality does not mean immortality.
It depends. Which immortality are we talking about? There's more than one.
Immortality, in the context of "biological immortality" does not mean that an individual lifeform doesn't die.
Look up HeLa cells or "immortalized cell lines."
immortality, here, is used for a continuation of cell division, and would more appropriately be called legacy because it is in reference to a cell's ability to continue to clone itself.
It is unfortunate that the term confuses people like you who have only one, idealized definition for immortality and are prone to assumptions and jumping to conclusions.
Hey Ashout, what do you believe makes one "worthy" of Heaven?
--David
I'll tell you what makes you worthy of heaven, loving what is good and hating what is evil! if you didn't do that, you wouldn't have found christ!
and love plays a part too.
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