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13th December 2011, 12:23 AM
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Reps: 126,954,408,396,066,480 (power: 126,954,408,396,089) | | Originally Posted by Archaeopteryx If the TV show in question were about American conservative Christians, I suspect your response would differ.
Edwin's right though. Lowe's didn't really do anything wrong. If they wanted to pull out, so be it.
I put the blame solely on the FFA.
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ding ding ding. I've known plenty of Muslims who really do fit the "All American" moniker. CAIR can be kinda annoying IMO, but so can Bill Donhue from the Catholic League (and I say that as a Catholic). Sure there are some pretty scary wack jobs, but they are akin to the Aryan Nation...well with more kills granted. | 
13th December 2011, 12:27 AM
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Reps: 254,726,225,729,237,664 (power: 254,726,225,729,254) | | Originally Posted by Harpuia Edwin's right though. Lowe's didn't really do anything wrong. If they wanted to pull out, so be it.
I put the blame solely on the FFA.
They are responsible for their actions.
They chose to appease the FFA and they deserve any criticism that comes with that.
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13th December 2011, 12:28 AM
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They chose to appease the FFA and they deserve any criticism that comes with that.
Would you say the same if CAIR manages to pressure Lowe's back into the sponsorship?
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I put the blame solely on the FFA.
I agree completely. But even as a business decision this one lacked foresight. By attempting to remove themselves from a potentially contentious position, they've put themselves in the center of it. I still maintain, however, that if the TV show was about conservative Christians, the FFA and others would cry foul.
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Reps: 126,954,408,396,066,480 (power: 126,954,408,396,089) | | Originally Posted by Archaeopteryx I agree completely. But even as a business decision this one lacked foresight. By attempting to remove themselves from a potentially contentious position, they've put themselves in the center of it. I still maintain, however, that if the TV show was about conservative Christians, the FFA and others would cry foul.
"Duh" moment of the night.  The FFA are no better than those two business majors back at my university.
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Yes it's a free society. They also deserved the criticism from the FFA for daring to sponsor a show that depicted normal hard working Muslims Americans as normal hard working Muslim Americans.
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Reps: 126,954,408,396,066,480 (power: 126,954,408,396,089) | | Originally Posted by variant Yes it's a free society. They also deserved the criticism from the FFA for daring to sponsor a show that depicted normal hard working Muslims Americans as normal hard working Muslim Americans.
Ok, you got me there.
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Reps: 255,385,286,507,088,704 (power: 255,385,286,507,091) | | Originally Posted by Archaeopteryx I agree completely. But even as a business decision this one lacked foresight. By attempting to remove themselves from a potentially contentious position, they've put themselves in the center of it. I still maintain, however, that if the TV show was about conservative Christians, the FFA and others would cry foul.
and in that case CAIR would probably be the ones demanding Lowes not sponser it! | 
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Reps: 301,272,253,198,615,424 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Harpuia Edwin's right though. Lowe's didn't really do anything wrong. If they wanted to pull out, so be it.
I put the blame solely on the FFA.
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