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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Psalm 12:7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.


God's word is compared to refined silver.


It is melted, and the dross comes to the surface and is skimmed off.


The King James Bible that we read today is the KJV, 5th edition.


As Gail Riplinger puts it, God created a diamond in 1611, then polished it five times.


Some diamond this is, very pretty indeed:

"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother ... Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city ... And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die."
Deuteronomy 21:18-21.

"Thus said the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." I Samuel 15:2-3.


I could go on for 10 pages, but I hope you get the point.




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Hi cabvet.

The flesh is only temporary.
We are witness to this everyday.

God is in eternity, without end, a Spiritual being, where death and pain don't exist.
Seek ye first the kingdom of heaven and all of this shall be added.

All born of flesh are interested in this.
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The flesh is only temporary.
We are witness to this everyday.
You were ok when the talk was about love, but sorry, my mind is too logical to accept this. You might as well tell me there will be 80 virgins waiting for me in the afterlife, it would make no difference.
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Death is death.
Life is life.

You can't disagree with that in truth.

Love will endure forever.
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Originally Posted by CabVet View Post


Some diamond this is, very pretty indeed:

"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother ... Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city ... And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die."
Deuteronomy 21:18-21.

"Thus said the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." I Samuel 15:2-3.


I could go on for 10 pages, but I hope you get the point.
I get the point quite well -- do you? ever heard of dispensationalism?
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Originally Posted by CabVet View Post
... my mind is too logical to accept this.
Shall I consider myself blessed to be in the presence of such an intellectual arena?
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
I get the point quite well -- do you? ever heard of dispensationalism?
Oh yeah, the fact that you pick and choose, at random, what to believe in the Bible? Yes, I heard about it and to me it is the biggest inconsistency of Christianity. But since you seem to be such a fan of the concept, let's discuss it, shall we?

Dispensationalism is a nineteenth-century evangelical development based on a futurist biblical hermeneutic that sees a series of chronologically successive "dispensations" or periods in history in which God relates to human beings in different ways under different Biblical covenants.


So let's assume for one second that the above is actually true. You use it all the time to say that laws that applied "back then" are not valid today because we have a different society.



Therefore, according to dispensationalism, God only tells us what we are ready to hear and understand, and some of his laws apply to some periods in history while others don't.


Now, when was Genesis written? Thousands of years before Christ, or in other words, during a VERY PRIMITIVE society. Do you think that anybody would have understood a word of what God had to say back then if he had used evolution to explain Genesis? DNA itself was discovered this century. If your dispensationalism is really a sound Christian principle, I can use it to completely dismiss the 7 day creation myth (just like you use it to dismiss the parts of the Bible you don't agree with).
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Shall I consider myself blessed to be in the presence of such an intellectual arena?
Not really, there are a lot of people like me around, all you need to do to notice them is stop ignoring them.
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Originally Posted by CabVet View Post
Do you think that anybody would have understood a word of what God had to say back then if he had used evolution to explain Genesis?
Yes -- and for the record, you can apply that logic to the universe expanding.

Confirmed by the Hubble telescope in this century, yet mentioned in Psalms and Isaiah.
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