Military Service wrong for Christians

Your point?

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If we believe God is powerless to help then we should definitely keep our powder dry.

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Originally Posted by dollarsbill

Your point?

Luk 19:27 is a parable

1Co 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

Matthew 6:33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.

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1Ch 25:5 all these were sons of Heman the king’s seer in the words of God, to exalt his power;Hozeh ("seer") also means "to see" or "to perceive," but is also used in reference to musicians. It is also used to describe a counselor or an advisor to a king. The Hebrew does not necessarily indicate that the person is a prophet, but rather an advisor—someone who has wisdom.
It means "one who has insight." Hence, the essential meaning in Greek is "interpreter."

Jesus commands us to kill His enemies.

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"The proof of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy" Revelation 19:10

Originally Posted by interpreter

Jesus commands us to kill His enemies.

Luk 19:27 is a parable

1Co 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

Matthew 6:33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.

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1Ch 25:5 all these were sons of Heman the king’s seer in the words of God, to exalt his power;Hozeh ("seer") also means "to see" or "to perceive," but is also used in reference to musicians. It is also used to describe a counselor or an advisor to a king. The Hebrew does not necessarily indicate that the person is a prophet, but rather an advisor—someone who has wisdom.
It means "one who has insight." Hence, the essential meaning in Greek is "interpreter."

How do you figure killing them is doing good to them? Hell is not a good place.

Luke 6:27 (NASB)
27 "But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,

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What the... No, just no.

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Jesus told his Jewish audience: "You heard that it was said, ‘You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those persecuting you; that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise upon wicked people and good and makes it rain upon righteous people and unrighteous. For if you love those loving you, what reward do you have? Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? And if you greet your brothers only, what extraordinary thing are you doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing? You must accordingly be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect."

Jesus established that anyone who does not follow his words have not proved themselves "sons of your Father who is in the heavens" and thus fail to "be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect". These have made themselves "sons of the wicked one", Satan, who fosters hatred and animosity and therefore becomes God's enemy.(Matt 13:38; James 4:4)

The apostle John wrote: "If anyone makes the statement: “I love God,” and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot be loving God, whom he has not seen. And this commandment we have from him, that the one who loves God should be loving his brother also."(1 John 4:20, 21)

In the illustration of the neighborly Samaritan who helped a beat up Jew and who was considered like an "enemy" by Jews, Jesus asked the man who wanted to prove himself righteous: "Who of these three seems to you to have made himself neighbor to the man that fell among the robbers?” He said: “The one that acted mercifully toward him.” Jesus then said to him: “Go your way and be doing the same yourself.”(Luke 10:36, 37)

Contrary to your determined belief, those who "kill their enemies" will perish, for Proverbs 2:21, 22 says that "the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it. As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth; and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it."

Here is a real-life experience of a man named Thomas Stubenvoll, who became a Marine in 1961 at the age of 17. He then began an 11 year career that led him to fight some very bloody battles in Vietnam, whereby he slaughtered many Vietnamese. Though raised a Catholic, he never once felt a cringe to shed blood. Because of his appetite for war, his superiors denied his request to enlist for a second tour of duty.

Though raised as a Catholic and even went to a Catholic school for 8 years, even serving as an altar boy, he still knew little to nothing about the Bible. However, once he learned what God required to please him, he realized that being a Marine and serving the true God, Jehovah, was incompatible. He then lost his love for war.

He said: "As a Marine, I did what I did out of ignorance and misguided zeal. As one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, having learned what the Bible teaches, I do what I do out of a firm conviction that there is a true, living God, that he is a loving God, and that in the end, only good things will happen to those who love and obey him."

Originally Posted by Phoebe Ann

A college professor was murdered in a home invasion and his wife injured. The man died while protecting his wife who had been attacked first. She called 911 and the police came. Suppose the children arrived home to two deceased parents. Was it wrong for those policemen to serve as officers of the law?

Was it wrong for Christians to go after Hitler? If innocent people are being slaughtered, should a Christian refuse to help?

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

As Jesus has made absolutely clear , fight evil with GOOD, not with evil, turn the cheek and if necessary to avoid sin of murder accept death for Love, do not die a sinner else one will have to come back from hell to life [Rev 20:13] to learn to Love, not sin , in the next life...

GOOD men do NOT do NOTHING in the face of evil, they Love all , even their enemies , which means CONQUERING fear of death for sake of Love as Jesus showed us by DOING it ...

learn from Jesus, rise above fear of death for as Jesus showed all will be resurrected from hell and death -Rev 20:13- so do not believe in, have faith in , sinners in frocks of mass religion of sinners ... under Satan :-

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil

you cannot even know God if you sin, only if you Love all continually :-

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 John 4:16 ...and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

to MURDER other people just because sinners tell you to, that is the sick job for mere money that soldiers do, to use evil murder as a force on men that think by fear, not Love...

why be part of evil when one can do good instead, obey God by Love, not sin, and be baptised of the spirit to be saved now rather than later when it becomes more obvious that the only way men can live in peace is by Love, NOT by war...

Originally Posted by strangertoo

As Jesus has made absolutely clear , fight evil with GOOD, not with evil, turn the cheek and if necessary to avoid sin of murder accept death for Love, do not die a sinner else one will have to come back from hell to life [Rev 20:13] to learn to Love, not sin , in the next life...

GOOD men do NOT do NOTHING in the face of evil, they Love all , even their enemies , which means CONQUERING fear of death for sake of Love as Jesus showed us by DOING it ...

learn from Jesus, rise above faer of daeth for as Jesus showed all will be resurrected from hell and death -Rev 20:13- so do not believe in, have faith in , sinners in frocks of mass religion of sinners ... under Satan :-

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil

you cannot even know God if you sin, only if you Love all continually :-

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 John 4:16 ...and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

to MURDER other people just because sinners tell you to, that is the sick job for mere money that soldiers do, to use evil murder as a force on men that think by fear, not Love...

why be part of evil when one can do good instead, obety God by Love, not sin, and be baptised of the spirit to be saved now rather than later when it becomes more obvious that the only way men can live in peace is by Love, NOT by war...

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1Ch 25:5 all these were sons of Heman the king’s seer in the words of God, to exalt his power;Hozeh ("seer") also means "to see" or "to perceive," but is also used in reference to musicians. It is also used to describe a counselor or an advisor to a king. The Hebrew does not necessarily indicate that the person is a prophet, but rather an advisor—someone who has wisdom.
It means "one who has insight." Hence, the essential meaning in Greek is "interpreter."