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7th October 2011, 10:36 AM
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Reps: 924,920,785,307,358,080 (power: 924,920,785,307,388) | | Originally Posted by Yoder777 It does when Cuba has been demonized by our government for fifty years.
No.
Go talk to people who lived their whole lives in Cuba and escaped. I have and I have really listened to them. One of my Spanish teachers escaped from Cuba and she told us what it was like is some pretty gritty detail.
Don't buy the hype.
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Reps: 924,920,785,307,358,080 (power: 924,920,785,307,388) | | Originally Posted by NightHawkeye As explained in this article from American Thinker: Archived-Articles: The Psychology of the Self-Hating LiberalIts roots are a self-hating neurosis that, in different forms has afflicted the European intelligentsia since the time of Rousseau. I first became aware of the strange mind games of the self-hating middle class liberal at university in the 1970's. It is a mindset that did then (and still does) dominate academic life. Students and their tutors alike - mostly the beneficiaries of upward striving family backgrounds - were consumed with a phony and entirely self- absorbed infatuation with something they called ‘the working class struggle'. Through its disproportionate hold on academic and media culture this mindset has now become mainstream. As it has spread through our culture it has been diluted and sublimated, Paradoxically this has made it even more poisonous by making it more difficult to apprehend. It has become a gossamer web of vaguely held attitudes. Here are some of them: Being middle class is something to be slightly ashamed of. Being working class on the other hand - or better still affecting to be working class - makes you seem more heroic......As long as you are ‘left wing' you are not only a nicer person but you are also ‘radical' and therefore not boring. If on the other hand you are ‘right wing', well that means you are ‘reactionary' and mean......Business enterprise is essentially disreputable whereas getting a living off the public purse or in the arts and media is highly civilised. Being an engineer or a scientist is OK too, up to a point - for boring people anyway.....And of course all the problems of people in the rest of the world are the fault, not of those people themselves but of the prosperous West. More specifically, the blame lies with ‘the capitalist system'; not you personally of course. You show how much you care by going to Live Aid concerts and that makes you feel much better about yourself. Mind games ... self-delusional mind games ... sigh ...
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That's a load of off-topic hogwash.
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Reps: 51,950,571,716,100,264 (power: 51,950,571,716,105) | | Originally Posted by KarateCowboy It's projection. It's been found that conservatives are considerably more charitable than liberals, despite earning less. If you want to know what progressives are up to then listen carefully to what they accuse their opposition of doing.
How much is that in giving to churches rather than actual programs for the poor? Giving money for another marble altar to be built isn't exactly charity.
There are certain societal problems that charity just can't or won't solve. What charity is going to provide medical care to every uninsured person in America? What charity is going to provide workers compensation for those who are injured on the job? What charity is going to provide financial assistance to people between jobs? What charity is going to care for our elderly? While private charity is able and willing to help some people with these needs, only government has the power and resources help the majority of people with these needs. Why spend billions of dollars bombing brown people in the Middle East when there are real problems here at home?
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Reps: 51,950,571,716,100,264 (power: 51,950,571,716,105) | | Originally Posted by WalksWithChrist That's a load of off-topic hogwash.
One could claim that conservatives are self-hating, which is why they are so puritanical on sexual issues and providing help to the less fortunate. If you secretly hate yourself, it's easy to project that hatred onto gays and welfare queens.
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Reps: 1,746,669,501,147,489,024 (power: 1,746,669,501,147,503) | | Originally Posted by Yoder777 One could claim that conservatives are self-hating, which is why they are so puritanical on sexual issues and providing help to the less fortunate. If you secretly hate yourself, it's easy to project that hatred onto gays and welfare queens.
LOL ... I'll repeat the question for ya, Yoder ... guess ya missed it earlier ... Originally Posted by Yoder777 The prerequisite for voting Republican is hating poor people ...
Wow ... why the hatred there, Yoder?
Or ... to put it in an unbiased form ... Prove it. Originally Posted by Yoder777 The prerequisite for voting Republican is hating poor people ...
That's the rule on this forum, Yoder ... you post it ... you back it up.
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Reps: 924,920,785,307,358,080 (power: 924,920,785,307,388) | | Originally Posted by Yoder777 One could claim that conservatives are self-hating, which is why they are so puritanical on sexual issues and providing help to the less fortunate. If you secretly hate yourself, it's easy to project that hatred onto gays and welfare queens.
Post # 11...reply?
Also another question for you. Are your opinions about Cuba in any way related to Che? I ask because most people that seem to think Cuba is awesome have a warped view of Che and what he was really about.
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Reps: 1,659,485,668,020,151,552 (power: 1,659,485,668,020,166) | | Originally Posted by Yoder777 As Americans, we've been led to believe that Cuba is an oppressive hell with an inferior quality of life. This is what our government wants us to believe about all socialist countries. During the Cold War, our intelligence community defined communism as any government that believes its resources should be utilized for the benefit of its people rather than for wealthy elites.
This definition was used to topple democratically elected leaders and stifle democratic movements throughout the world, including Greece, whose president was removed by an American-sponsored coup. Google "Greece" and "junta" to learn more. To this day, Cuba remains a thorn in America's side because of its survival as a socialist state.
By the normal measurements of quality of life, Cuba is a great place to live compared to the rest of imperial-dominated Latin America. Cuban Revolution: Celebrating 50 years of accomplishments By Owen Richards Cuban Revolution: Celebrating 50 years of accomplishments | Direct Action
Cuba is also a leader in environmentally sustainable practices: CUBA'S BOGUS STATISTICS
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Reps: 167,719,998,018,707,424 (power: 167,719,998,018,718) | | Originally Posted by Yoder777 As Americans, we've been led to believe that Cuba is an oppressive hell with an inferior quality of life. This is what our government wants us to believe about all socialist countries. During the Cold War, our intelligence community defined communism as any government that believes its resources should be utilized for the benefit of its people rather than for wealthy elites.
This definition was used to topple democratically elected leaders and stifle democratic movements throughout the world, including Greece, whose president was removed by an American-sponsored coup. Google "Greece" and "junta" to learn more. To this day, Cuba remains a thorn in America's side because of its survival as a socialist state.
By the normal measurements of quality of life, Cuba is a great place to live compared to the rest of imperial-dominated Latin America. Cuban Revolution: Celebrating 50 years of accomplishments By Owen Richards Cuban Revolution: Celebrating 50 years of accomplishments | Direct Action
Cuba is also a leader in environmentally sustainable practices:
A first-rate and well-targeted post. Much needed. Two caveats though, Yoda: the ever-present, secular, "anything goes" strain of sexual liberalism of the left (and the right, more secretly, where money is involved, e.g. pornography, prostitution, etc) is as inimical to Christianity as the economic, 'devil take the hindmost' liberalism of the right.
In that regard, with its hypocrisy, the right at least pays tribute to virtue, and the importance of that
can hardly be overstated. As Christ said, "Don't do as they do, but do as they say." The secularism of the left leads to moral anarchy and the increasing breakdown of society, although in the UK the formal Christian witness of the right, with which they attempt to mask their economic idolatry, is an ever-diminishing residue of virtue.
Unfortunately, politicans of every hue tend to be quite shallow worldlings, so that the respective focus of the right and left on the First and Second Commandment tends to be no more than a dogged, because essential, cynical 'front' in both cases. The Conservatives in power are actually an anachronism, their current office due solely to their coalition with the Liberals. They will never regain power as a single party. If they were ever going to it, it would have been after the crypto-Thatcherite, economic and societal mayhem left by Blair and Brown's NuLab(c), Tory lite Governments.
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