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3rd October 2011, 02:10 AM
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4th October 2011, 02:01 AM
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Reps: 19,891,600,268,041,212 (power: 19,891,600,268,043) | | | “Zaius, it doesn't count if you cite a wiki article immediately after you change it yourself.” I hope you aren’t implying that I altered the evidence. I would have to ask you if it was an alteration after I copied it out of the article. They don’t let me change real “Wiki” articles. If they did I think they would regret it. Anyway I am unqualified in education and intelligence. Just ask the Loudmouth… I thought I might be making a point soon about the Chromosome #2 but I seem to be experiencing some genetic drift. This is not on point. I had my reasons for going to a particular gene but it is the long way around and I finally realized I am not the one who needs to take it up. My apologies on that issue. | 
4th October 2011, 02:16 AM
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4th October 2011, 02:18 AM
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4th October 2011, 02:25 AM
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4th October 2011, 12:16 PM
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Reps: 388,401,009,366,160,832 (power: 388,401,009,366,184) | | Originally Posted by Zaius137 Anyway I am unqualified in education and intelligence. Just ask the Loudmouth… They don't need to ask me. They just need to read your posts and compare them to the real chimp genome paper. I thought I might be making a point soon about the Chromosome #2 but I seem to be experiencing some genetic drift. Why don't you stay on topic since you are the one that started the topic? Do you still stand by the 30% difference between humans and chimps?
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4th October 2011, 01:03 PM
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Reps: 19,891,600,268,041,212 (power: 19,891,600,268,043) | | | A conclusion in science needs a null-hypothesis. I believe that I made a point from the “Wiki”, "Chimp Genome" and also the "Uncommon Decent" analysis agreed with similar divergences. It is just which one you can accept; either the evolution viewpoint or the statistical viewpoint. There is also peer reviewed documents that support a 4% divergence which gives the exact figure in the uncommon decent article of 62%. P(x) = (1-e^-(1-.04)) = 62% comparable. Also the segments that would not align with the human scaffold were 77% (not disputed in any article). 2.4Gb/3.1Gb ~ 77% This would be the minimum alignment and can not be assumed to be aligned to 100% as the evolutionist would claim (a presupposed alignment). So yes I can maintain that the “Wiki” could be correct in saying that humans are at best similar to chimps by only 70%. But the Uncommon decent article does show only a 62% statistical similarity. Any way you look at it the estimate between 96% and 99% is just a fairy tale. Always a conclusion in science needs a null-hypothesis.
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4th October 2011, 01:11 PM
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Reps: 168,363,828,702,698,208 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Zaius137 P.S racism is Anti-God….
How are the Jews being god's 'chosen people' not racism?
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4th October 2011, 01:14 PM
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Irony FTW! 
Well, to be fair, has Zaius actually said that in this thread? Maybe he doesn't believe that. | 
4th October 2011, 01:23 PM
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Reps: 168,363,828,702,698,208 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Incariol Well, to be fair, has Zaius actually said that in this thread? Maybe he doesn't believe that.
Whether he believes this or not does not diminish the fact that the bible teaches that the Israelites are god's 'chosen people.' |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |