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What does it mean to be saved?

When a pearson gets "saved" what does that mean?

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I'm sure there'll be a lot of legnthy replies, so I'll try to make it quick:

Saved: from spiritual death into eternal life
Saved: from bondage to sin into freedom in Christ
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yes, saved from inevitable eternal separation from a perfect, just and Holy God which is the natural consequence of our sinful nature. If God is perfect and God is just he cannot tolerate any fault because then he would cease to be perfect... but God is love so he had a plan to "redeem us" or "save us"
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Originally Posted by JRSut1000 View Post
I'm sure there'll be a lot of legnthy replies, so I'll try to make it quick:

Saved: from spiritual death into eternal life
Saved: from bondage to sin into freedom in Christ

What does spiritual death mean? That you no longer have a soul?

Also if you are saved from the bondage of sin, does that mean you will never sin again?

K
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Originally Posted by jehoiakim View Post
yes, saved from inevitable eternal separation from a perfect, just and Holy God which is the natural consequence of our sinful nature. If God is perfect and God is just he cannot tolerate any fault because then he would cease to be perfect... but God is love so he had a plan to "redeem us" or "save us"
But what does saved mean?

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I will add that Salvation is both instantaneous, and progressive; so that ultimately it is "he who shall endure to the end shall be saved." Which in no way minimizes the reality our Lord can have in the here and now.
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Originally Posted by Ken-1122 View Post
What does spiritual death mean? That you no longer have a soul?
This is a difficult question! The story of Adam and Eve in the garden serves us well to have insight here. satan told Eve she would not die. G-d told Adam they would. They both ate, and did not die physically only because G-d intervened, initiating the first step of His Covenant with mankind.

They still dies Spiritually, and were cut off from the full Presence of G-d, and "kicked out of Eden." No, we don't really know what this means, never having "been there."

They both continued to have a soul, but trying to distinguish between soul and spirit is more tricky than we can do well.

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Also if you are saved from the bondage of sin, does that mean you will never sin again?

K
We all wish No. It does mean that our sin does not necessarily have to result in our own death, of any sort, as that burden has been borne by Jesus. So in the immediate sense, that is the best definition of Salvation, like so:

"And in that day thou shalt say, O LORD, I will praise thee: though thou wast angry with me, thine anger is turned away, and thou comfortedst me. (Isaiah 12:2) Behold, God [is] my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH [is] my strength and [my] song; he also is become my salvation. Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation. And in that day shall ye say, Praise the LORD, call upon his name, declare his doings among the people, make mention that his name is exalted.
Sing unto the LORD; for he hath done excellent things: this [is] known in all the earth. Cry out and shout, thou inhabitant of Zion: for great [is] the Holy One of Israel in the midst of thee."

(One of the shorter chapters in the Bible.)
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I will add that Salvation is both instantaneous, and progressive; so that ultimately it is "he who shall endure to the end shall be saved." Which in no way minimizes the reality our Lord can have in the here and now.
Again; what does it mean to be saved?

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Again; what does it mean to be saved?

K
Let's see what Saint Peter had to say about it:

"Simeon [fn] Peter, a servant [fn] and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ: May grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord. His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to [fn] his own glory and excellence, [fn] by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire. For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, [fn] and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. For if these qualities [fn] are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

For whoever lacks these qualities is so nearsighted that he is blind, having forgotten that he was cleansed from his former sins. Therefore, brothers, [fn] be all the more diligent to make your calling and election sure, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall.

(2 Peter 1:11) For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ."

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