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Wow, the strawmen in that post must constitute a fire hazard!
Yeah the OP was a scam from the start.
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I agree that they shouldn't be outlawed.

Fetal surgery is possible for some conditions and I think that is something to look into, if possible. Getting a second, and maybe a third opinion is advisable as well.

I hope you sister and her husband are doing well.

Could I ask you what a humanist with a Christian heritage...means?
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Originally Posted by NDNgirl4ever View Post
I know that the case in the original post wasn't a life threatening pregnancy. However, I will say this in response to some of the other posts: no one has the right to force a woman to go through a life threatening pregnancy. If a woman chooses to take the risk and carry to term, more power to her. If she chooses to abort, then that is her right as well and no one should make her feel bad for it. She does have a right to save her own life.
While I hope and pray that I am never faced with that decision, I'll admit that if I found out that a pregnancy was likely to kill me, I'd probably give abortion some very serious thought.



That is true, and there are many tests that are not conclusive. That being said, I get the impression (and admittedly, I could be wrong) from the OP that there was no doubt that the diagnosis was correct.

You had a picture of buttons with sayings on them......
One said........Pro-family, pro-children, pro-choice.

This is laughable. You can't be pro-choice and say that you are pro-children. The fact that you are a pro-abort...based on choice....says that you want abortion LEGAL SO THAT SOME WOMEN HAVE THE CHOICE TO KILL.

You are not pro-life...pro-children.....you are pro-abortion.

It is sad to know to think that you would be pro-abortion even until natural delivery. So so sad. You say no woman should be forced to go through a pregnancy that she does not want to continue....this would also mean you would condone a late term abortion. I mean playin devils adovacate here....you would not want to enslave someone who does not want to be pregnant...right? It would be hypocritical to say your pro-choice and deny any woman the right to kill......throughout the entire nine months.
How sad, especially because you say you are a Christian.

Would you mind showing me scripture and making Gods case for abortion.
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Originally Posted by razeontherock View Post
No, and no. Tough situation, that I wish no one ever had to be faced with. Unfortunately, life isn't like that. My condolences.



Again, life isn't like that. My condolences that this was your experience, which I do not challenge nor debate. Here you clarify the reason for those of us that use the "relationship not religion" slogan. Jesus preys on no one! His Father preys on no one! Look into his many Names, and see what all He provides ...



I echo this sentiment to those on 'my side of the aisle.' The battle is re: public funding, and minor children (even age 17) needing to have their parents at least informed of the procedure. If they drew the battle line there, we might make some progress.

Progress you say. Progress for the unborn would be to ban outlaw abortion. Now that would please and honor God. Don't you think?
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Originally Posted by SithDoughnut View Post
Euthanasia has nothing to do with genetics. If you're going to level false accusations the least you could do is stick to the realm of the logically possible.



I read the article. It claims "study after study" and then doesn't even name them, let alone quote them, cite them or give any reason why their position should be considered true. Nor do they give any details as to why this happened. Turning off life support is a type of involuntary euthanasia which is accepted worldwide, and these "involuntary killings" sound suspiciously like that, considering the only detail given is that these patients are practically dead.



Of course we do. Euthanasia doesn't work like that, however. It's not a quick or easy option.



Almost. In the Netherlands, the option is there, if the person is in a state of incurable suffering, they show a persistent desire for euthanasia free of external influences, they fully and completely understand the consequences of their action and multiple doctors agree that the patient fulfils the former three criteria. Then, and only then, is euthanasia an option. Not a guaranteed process, but an option.

Even then, this process merely means that doctors will not be prosecuted. It's neither encouraged nor supported by the law.

You say you understand euthanasia and then demonstrate that you don't. I'd advise you move beyond the right to life groups and look at the actual situation, rather than the opinions of those who have no respect for the suffering.



It's not remotely close to murder. The only reason you'd even try to make that comparison is for a baseless emotional argument.



Where in the Bible does it say you're supposed to force Christian values upon everyone else? And where is killing being advocated? Euthanasia is not encouraged, just provided as a final option for those who don't want to suffer any longer. Contrary to whatever leaps to conclusions you've made, we who support euthanasia as an option are not going to start running around old people's homes killing the inhabitants. Last time I checked, God gave humanity free-will; it's interesting how many people want to try to take that away.
From what I have read...they even use euthanasia on children.
Once assisted suicide is legalized, it will be impossible to contain. It will become impossible to protect the vulnerable and mentally ill. Its really then death on demand and families will abuse this. They will be able to just drop grandma off at the death mill and say goodbye. The elderly will feel pressured to die to save their families money. Most people want to die at this age because they are depressed...not at deaths door. Pain can be controlled today...but to kill someone is not our decision to make. God will take us when He is ready.

Where does it say in scriptures to kill the elderly or mentally handicapped?

Like using abortion only for the tough cases…those promoting assisted suicide promised Oregon voters... said that it would be used only for extreme pain and suffering. Yet there has been NO documented case of assisted suicide used for untreatable pain. Instead patients are being given lethal overdoes because of psychological and social concerns, especially fears that they may no longer be valued as people or may be a burden to their families.


“National studies show that among patients requesting assisted suicides, DEPRESSION is the only factor that significantly predicts the request for death.”

(Fifth Annual Report on Oregon’s Death with Dignity Act, Oregon Department of Human Services; Office of Disease Prevention and Epidemiology, March 6, 1003)



The Oregon Health Division issues a yearly summary of assisted suicide using information derived from prescribing doctors. NO supporting documentation or independent evaluation is provided to determine the assisted suicide was performed in accordance with the LAW. ALL INFORMATION IS FORBIDDEN TO INSPECTION.


They say they have no way to detect doctors who fail to report assisted deaths or commit other violations of the law. I know this because last year we had a pro-life doctor from Oregon state come and lecture on what is happening in Oregon.


“Sixty-seven percent of suicides are because of psychiatric depression. By Oregon’s fifth year only 13% of suicide victims received psychiatric counseling. Social isolation and concerns about loss of autonomy and control over bodily function were the causes of suicide.”


(Foley and Hendin, “The Oregon Report, Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” Hastings Center Report, May-June 1999)

I have been reading up on the Netherlands....

Euthanasia has expanded to infants, the depressed and the chronically ill. (Herbert Hendin MD, Chris Rutenfrans PHD and Zbigniew Zylicz MD, “Physicians-Assisted Suicide and Euthanasia in the Netherlands”, JAMA, June 4, 1997 vol.277, No 21, p. 1720)


Children as young as 12 with parental consent and those as young as 16 with parental notification can assess euthanasia. (Associated Press, Reuters, BBC, November 28,2000)


“80% of euthanasia deaths are NOT requested by the patient. (Herbert Hendin MD, Chris Rutenfrans PHD and Zbigniew Zylicz MD, “Physicians-Assisted Suicide and Euthanasia in the Netherlands”, JAMA, June 4, 1997



“Virtually every guideline set up by the Dutch has failed to protect patients or has been modified or violated. (Suzanne Daley, “The Dutch Seek to Legalize Long-Tolerated Euthanasia” New York Times, June 20,2000, p.A10)



No one has the right to take a life, unless it is for self defense or to protect someone. What physicians should do is to make life pain free, not to kill.
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Originally Posted by SithDoughnut View Post
If you're going to reply to an OP, it always helps to read it first. If you had read it, you would have realised that the OP is saying that it's not OK. The rest of your post falls apart because it is based upon a claim that was never made.

They teach reading in school, and you'd be doing your teachers a disservice if you don't use what they spent so much effort teaching you.
lol. Sadly I must agree with this. I'm happy so many people on here don't determine my fate. God is the final judge to me and I don't think he wants women to suffer needlessly. To the OP, I'll pray for you, you had to endure difficult decisions.
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then push for better pain management.

Death is not the only alternative to pain.

Keep in mind, there's a difference between EUTHANASIA and ceasing treatment that maintains life. And doctors already provide patients with the means to commit suicide on their own on a regular basis. Morphine drips that are controlled by the patient, drugs that are provided to the patient that are lethal if the patient over doses or takes with alcohol....

That is NOT euthanasia. Euthanasia is a doctor or loved one actually KILLING a person who would not die otherwise, and who will not kill themselves...either because they can't or because they don't want to. It is choosing to kill a person for convenience sake.

Some pain simply is not manageable. And this is a fact.
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Progress you say. Progress for the unborn would be to ban outlaw abortion. Now that would please and honor God. Don't you think?
Not when that would ultimately result in more widespread death from the skyrocketing frequencies of back-alley coat-hanger/hoover abortions.
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Not when that would ultimately result in more widespread death from the skyrocketing frequencies of back-alley coat-hanger/hoover abortions.
Another fallacy.

There is absolutely no evidence that back alley coat/hanger/hoover abortions would skyrocket. And in fact, "skyrocket" is relative. There were a remarkably tiny number of deaths from botched abortions (maybe 100 but I think like 37) the year before abortion was legalized.

And this assumption is based on the ridiculous belief that all women who seek abortions would #1, still get pregnant if abortion was illegal, and #2, get an abortion if it was illegal.

Essentially, the assumption is that the women who seek abortion are so stupid and so criminal that the fact that abortion is ILLEGAL will make no difference to them, that they are THAT committed to getting one.

Not true.

Please provide the stats that show how the number of botched abortion deaths would skyrocket if abortions were illegal? You made the claim, you back it up.
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Originally Posted by mpok1519 View Post
Some pain simply is not manageable. And this is a fact.
What sort of pain is unmanageable? I've worked in a nursing home, I worked as a caseworker for SPD..I've never seen any pain that is unmanageable.

Late stage cancer is pretty painful for a while before death...and they generally opt for morphine which renders them unconscious and often hastens their death by slowing their breathing.

Doctors have been helping people to die in this way since time began. There's no need to legalize murder to accomodate it.
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