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Hebrew origins and what the word faith originally means

Hello, wrote and pasted some of this very fast. but, it is ground breaking knoweledge about the origins of the hebrew in the bible..

Sorry about the mess in the alphabet below, but its good to use when you are filled witht the holy spirit to guide you. I know some of the meanings are contradictiary, its because.. when they found the dead sea scrolls and so on.. there was no alphabet that explained the meaning.. so people disagree you know…


:1.  Aleph(first letter of hebrew alphabet)=ox- Bertie Brits: Leader, strength, Sacrifice (Frank T. Seekings: strength, leader, first)
:2.  Beth=house- Dwelling place, household, acceptance (in, into, family)
:3. Gimel=camel- Uplift, carry, exultation, ascend (pride, animal)
:4. Dalet=door- Way, passage, entrance/exit access (pathway, to enter)
:5. Hey=man with two hands stretched up- revelation, to reveal, grace (the, to reveal)
:6. VAV=nail- Join together, nailed (and, to add, to secure)
:7. Zayin=weapon- Sword, cut off, word, tounge (cut, to cut off)
:8. Chet=fence- Separate, private, fence, protect (private, to separate)
:9. Tet=snake- Twist, surround, snake (to surround)
:10. Yood=hand- Extended, giving/receiving, power, ruling (work, a deed, to make)
:11. Kaf=palm of hand- Cover, protect, work, feed, power (to cover, to open, allow)
:12. Lamed=cattle goad-Teaching, correct, direct, authority (control, authority, tounge)
:13. Mem=water- Reflection, Spirit, fullness of life (liquid, massive, chaos)
:14. Noun=fish(seed darting trough the water)- activity, life, multi directional, man (activity, life)
:15. Samech=prop- support, fortress, uphold, spine (support, twist, slowly, turn) Other inter: =Thorn- Grab, Hate, Protect
:16. Ayin=eye- understand, to know, experience, to see (to see, know, experience)
:17. Pey=mouth- speak, eat, drink, a word, open (to speak, word, open)
:18. Tsdik=fish hook (host insect) – harvest, hooked, change (Metamorphosis)) (catch, desire, need)
:19. Koof=back of head(priest cast)- Kingdom, ruler, behind, last (behind, the last, the least) Other interp:=Sun on the Horizon- Condense, Circle, Time
:20. Resh=Head of man- To think, meditate, the head, the boss (a person, the head, the highest)
:21. Sheen=Teeth- Gods Glory, shining, radiance, pressure (to consume, to destroy)
:22. Tuv=Cross- Cross, sealing of a covenant (to seal, to covenant)
:23. Rope- Rope of twisted fibers Crooked, dark, goat, silent

The interpretation of the ancient hebrew letters above are based on Frank T. Seekings book "Hebrew Word Pictures" and videos by Bertie Brits on Youtube and Godtube.

Hebrew origins and what the word faith originally means:
To actually read the old hebrew testament in its original form and interprent the meaning of the hebrew word pictures, download E-sword with the user-addon: "Ancient hebrew lexicon". Also you need blueletterbible.org with strongs to know the strong number of the word which you can find in the ancient hebrew lexicon. There is disagreement about what the meaning hebrew word pictures are.

Okay an example what the word faith actually means.. ¨
Two words of faith are used in new testamen:
Strong's G4102 - pistis
πίστις
Transliteration
pistis
Pronunciation
pē'-stēs
Transliteration

Strong's G4100 - pisteuō
πιστεύω
Transliteration
pisteuō
Pronunciation
pē-styü'-ō (Key)

pē-styü'-ō (Key)

I’m pleased to inform you that there are two instances where this word refers to the word faith in old testament, in other words the Hebrew.. They both refer to the same rooth word aman, and emuwnah (that is an extension from the word aman) Then we can conclude: They both mean the same, and we have two sources from TWO different languages..How cool… And I’m also very pleased that my research conclude that both languages means the same, but before I reveal the answer, here is the old testament word for faith:


Strong's H539 - 'aman
אָמַן
Transliteration
'aman
Pronunciation
ä·man'

Strong's H530 - 'emuwnah
אֱמוּנָה
Transliteration
'emuwnah
Pronunciation
em·ü·nä' (Key)


Proof of what faith means from the new testament:

Example 1:

Jesus told Peter he did not have enough faith when he tried to walk on the water..
In south korea people tried the same thing to walk on the water, but they sunk and died.. When their pastor asked God why: God said that Jesus TOLD PETER to walk on the water.. In other words Jesus spoke first…
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Example 2:
Jesus rebuke his disciples for having to little faith in the storm when they got afraid.. Remember that Jesus told them to go to the other side… aha.. Same as example one
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Example 3:
Jesus commends the lame man who came down from the hole in the roof.. But why didn’t these guys wait for when Jesus came out of the house after the meeting.. Because Holy spirit gave them the idea to make the whole in the roof

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Example 4:
Jesus commend the centaurian for his great faith “never has I seen such faith In Israel” … The centaurian said: I have soldiers under me which I command and I am commanded by the leader above me..
He got the idea, to represent the commandment of the leader in a way which reflects the leader to the highest possible degree: to have faith God must have spoke to you first.. Yes I’m talking about hearing Gods voice throw the holy spirit.. The way Bethel church redding, IHOP, Morning star and so many other ministries focuses on today as central thing….

Final example from the new testament:
Rom 10:17 So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Yes faith comes by hearing GOD SPEAK TO YOU THE WAY HE WANTS TO SPEAK! Faith doesn’t come by hearing your pastor preaching, if we use the original meaning of faith


Alrighty, so then the Hebrew…We will use the alphabet above and see if we can find out of this:

Emuwnah:
Enfma% (Enfma%A-MW-NH) - Firmness: [freq. 49] |kjv: faithfulness, truth, faithfully, office, faithful, faith, stability, steady, truly| {str: 530}
aAleph-Ox- Leader, strength, (also: sacrificial ox) Sacrifice (strength, leader, first)
mMem=water-Reflection, Spirit, fullness of life (liquid, massive, chaos)
fVAV=nail- Join together, nailed (and, to add, to secure)
nNoun=Fish(darting trough the water)-activity, life, multi directional, man (activity, life)
e Hey=window revelation, to reveal, Grace (Frank: the, to reveal)

Conclusion from the above:
Ok, Aleph, Ox stands for God… Why, cause all gods name, atleast that I know of starts with this letter.. And who is our leader,, God offcourse..
Conclusion: Faith HAS to start with God speaking/leading us

Water is spirit nailed to life/activity/action.. that’s an easy one… faith without works are dead.. we know that from new testament.. so hearing gods voice without acting on it is not faith…
And then we have revelation…
Spirit of revelation.. Isaiah 11:1

Ok there you have it..
A little bonus, what does God’s name mean on Hebrew: Yahweh and Elohim:
Yehovah 3068: Hand, :5. Hey=man with two hands stretched up- revelation, to reveal, grace (the, to reveal)
, nail, :5. Hey=man with two hands stretched up- revelation, to reveal, grace (the, to reveal)
: Th

First letter is hand, so basicly ruling or something, and then there is two letters for revelation… Revelation is a big thing in this name..

Okay.. what about elohim:
God/Elohim: Ox,Cattle Goad,Window,Hand,Water:

Ox and cattle goad and revelation and hand and spirit.. Okay allot about ruling us here, ruling throw revelation obviously, and throw our spirit.. Fascinating



Please spread this information around…
What can we conclude from all of this.. Yes: The just shall live from faith to faith.. and faith means acting on Gods leadership.. And faith comes by hearing.. in other words to get more faith, we need to hear Gods voice more often, we need to get more revelation..
And offcourse to get more revelation we need to get more filled up by the holy spirit, and the also practice a little.. faith without works is dead right
So, conclusion, go to the extreme in spending time in the holy spirits presence.. like 12 hours a day or something.. go to church less, read the bible less, work less, waste ur time less on spare time activities, spend more time with the holy spirit.. And then practice acting on what the holy spirit tells you.. Practice by asking him for road directon, and see if he gets you there.. Practice with prophetic evangelism.. And so on

Cheers.. that’s all.. We must stay obedient to the bible: FOR THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH!!!!

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This is not how you learn Hebrew. This tells you nothing about what the word means. Meaning is determined by context, not by mystical letter combinations. This is nothing but a waste of time and a diversion.
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From experience I can tell you what he is teaching is from the Word of Faith camp, he's just thrown in some Hebrew words (and/or Hebrew Roots type teachings which are incomplete to say the least).
To me messing around with the language (which is rotten and attempts to change what is actually written) is bad enough but the WoF part is dangerous and unscriptural. WoF is just wrong. As you read, what it comes down to is that if you're not able to walk on the water it's because you have not "heard" God or the Spirit tell you to do so, if you have not "heard" from God then you're not in God's will, or maybe not even His, etc. See where all that is leading to? Dangerous!
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Either way, "Enfma% (Enfma%A-MW-NH) - Firmness: [freq. 49] |kjv: faithfulness, truth, faithfully, office, faithful, faith, stability, steady, truly| {str: 530}" means nothing to me. This "Enfma%" is not a Hebrew word. He means to have posted אֱמוּנָה but isn't aware that the legacy font that whatever program or website he was using doesn't display here. He should have fixed his post to actually have the Hebrew word, but he certainly didn't. He posted gibberish for us and expects everyone else to sort it out. That's just irritating. It's not Hebrew.
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Originally Posted by yonah_mishael View Post
Either way, "Enfma% (Enfma%A-MW-NH) - Firmness: [freq. 49] |kjv: faithfulness, truth, faithfully, office, faithful, faith, stability, steady, truly| {str: 530}" means nothing to me. This "Enfma%" is not a Hebrew word. He means to have posted אֱמוּנָה but isn't aware that the legacy font that whatever program or website he was using doesn't display here. He should have fixed his post to actually have the Hebrew word, but he certainly didn't. He posted gibberish for us and expects everyone else to sort it out. That's just irritating. It's not Hebrew.

I'm such a dunce! I saw that percent sign but didn't really think much about it, didn't read all of the smaller lighter print (my eyes got drawn to the bolded print), so I just thought it was a typo!!
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The OP is complete nonsense. I'm starting to wonder why there are so many people making claims about Hebrew who know absolutely nothing about what they're talking about.

Note: just because you have Strong's or some other tool doesn't mean you have any idea how to use it. Having a stethoscope doesn't make you able to diagnose a medical condition. Neither does Strong's or some other resource tell you anything about Hebrew.

The OP does bring up an interesting thought, though... I wonder what word(s) a Hebrew manuscript of Matthew like DuTillet used in place of the Greek word for “faith”... Some random samples...

Matt 6:30: ‫אמנה‬ (instead of oligopistoi)
Matt 8:10: ‫אמונה‬ (instead of pistis)
Matt 9:2: ‫אמונתם‬ (instead of pistis)
Matt 21:21: אמונה (instead of pistis)

So אמונה (reliability/firmness/trustworthiness/faithfulness) is the constant Hebraic substitute in this text for the Greek word “faith.” It is used, for instance, to describe the state of Moshe's hands when they were constantly held up (instead of falling down) by Aaron and Hur (Exod 17:12). In II Kings 22:7, it is used to describe the builders chosen for the repairing of YHWH's temple. They are said to be “trustworthy/faithful” so no accounting of the money given to them is needed. Etc.

So using the Hebrew, our samples would say something like...

Matt 6:30 – Oh, you of little trustworthiness
Matt 8:10 – Truly I tell you, with no one in Israel have I found such faithfulness
Matt 9:2 – And when Jesus saw their firmness
Matt 21:21 – Truly, I say to you, if you are steadfast

So faith in the Hebraic sense is something you do without wavering... It is the manifestation of a commitment, of a resolute mind, of the one who has integrity instead of compromise. Torah-observance would be one aspect of that. Those who had faith would be those who would obey YHWH's commands instead of turning away. The righteous will live by their faith (Hab 2:4) – in other words, the righteous person will live through their faithfulness to God... like the children of Israel who would lose their life when Moshe' hands would grow weary and fall, but would maintain their lives when Moshe' hands were firm. Notice there... Moshe's faith didn't depend entirely on him - in fact, his faith was strengthened by others.
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"What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but do not have works? Can faith save you?"
--James 2:14, NRSV

Answer: No. Faith can't save you.

"A person is justified by works and not by faith alone."
--James 2:24, NRSV
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Originally Posted by letirrain View Post
Hello, wrote and pasted some of this very fast. but, it is ground breaking knoweledge about the origins of the hebrew in the bible..

Sorry about the mess in the alphabet below, but its good to use when you are filled witht the holy spirit to guide you. I know some of the meanings are contradictiary, its because.. when they found the dead sea scrolls and so on.. there was no alphabet that explained the meaning.. so people disagree you know…
I am familiar with the paleo-hebrew pictograph meanings. Dr Frank Seekins is at least missing a several of the letter alternate definitions.

Mem - waters can also be a reference to people. This is referenced all over the scriptures. David talks about his enemies being a 'flood' and waves. In Revelation the Whore is over Many Waters that the angel declares are 'peoples, tribes, nations and tongues'. The association between 'waters' and 'people' is common. We are waters. We are made mostly of water. Birth begins with the 'breaking of the water'. We are conceived in an exchange of 'waters'. The 'waters above' are the angelic beings while the 'waters below' are the earthly beings. The voice of 'many waters' is a great multitude.

An example is the word MLK, (melek - king or molech 'shameful king'). Water, authority, open hand becomes the 'hand of authority over the waters/people' is a king. The biblical example is Moses with his hand on the staff and his hand over the waters that parts the Red Sea and leads the people to safety. A true king is a shepherd, a leader, not a dictator.

Ayin - eye, fountain, source of waters, even vaginal opening. The different forms of Ayin could have been drawn either vertically or horizontally.

A good example of this alternate meaning is the word Da'at which means 'knowledge'. Dalet-ayin-tav or 'doorway, eye, cross/covenant', is to use the 'doorway of the eye to read scripture' is to gain 'knowledge'. It is NOT general knowledge but 'knowledge of covenant'. When it is used in the form of 'carnal knowledge' it is 'doorway, vagina, covenant' or to 'use the doorway of the vagina in the covenant of marriage'. This is how the same word can have alternate meanings by using the alternate letter meanings. It has to be taken from the context in the modern Hebrew but in the paleo-hebrew they could draw the letters differently for the alternate meanings. Sometimes Da'at is used for 'carnal knowlege' and sometimes 'yada' is used.

Dr Seekins tends to leave out any of the sexual references probably out of some sense of puritanism or he just plain doesn't know them.

Now for reference, I am not an expert in Hebrew. I only had one semester in bible college but by learning the paleo-hebrew pictographs it helped to be able to see and remember the vocabulary meanings.

I learned enough Hebrew to be able to use an interlinear and to understand how things got translated the way they did. It also helped to find errors within the vowel pointing.

A good example of a place that most translations have an error is Isa 57:9. They translate MLK as 'king' when the passage is talking about the paganism of Baalim worship in the grove above and the killing of the children in the valley below. It is a reference to Molech worship in the valley of Himmom. If the individuals didn't understand the context, they vowel pointed MLK as melek instead of Molech. Translators used the wrong vowel pointed word in most translations. The Amplified says 'king [or Molech]' to show it is debated.
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Originally Posted by yedida View Post
From experience I can tell you what he is teaching is from the Word of Faith camp, he's just thrown in some Hebrew words (and/or Hebrew Roots type teachings which are incomplete to say the least).
To me messing around with the language (which is rotten and attempts to change what is actually written) is bad enough but the WoF part is dangerous and unscriptural. WoF is just wrong. As you read, what it comes down to is that if you're not able to walk on the water it's because you have not "heard" God or the Spirit tell you to do so, if you have not "heard" from God then you're not in God's will, or maybe not even His, etc. See where all that is leading to? Dangerous!
While I agree with you about 'word of faith' doctrine, there is nothing wrong with going back to the paleo-hebrew. It is how the words derived their meanings. I even attended a bible college and later found out it was 'word of Faith' based. Needless to say, I only stayed the 1st year before going to a different bible college.

In English, in the word 'cat' the c, a, and t have no meaning. Only when combined together as sounds does the word have meaning. This is not true of Hebrew. Each letter was originally draw like hieroglyphics. Each letter was a picture. It was in how those letter/pictures were combined that the word derived its meaning. It was at the Babylonian captivity that the current form of Hebrew letters were developed. Moses wrote in the paleo-hebrew form which is similar to Phoenician.

Psalms 119 has a section for each Hebrew letter.

The word pictures explain many things. For example the word for 'bless' is the picture of 'fire on the head' as in the presence of the Holy Spirit. When scripture states to bless your enemy and bring down 'coals of fire on their head' it isn't a bad thing. It is a reference to bringing the Holy Spirit into their life so they can change. It is also a confirmation that the word pictures hold value by directly representing a word picture.
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I just wanted to thank you for what u wrote. I have been studying what faith means, and yours was one of the best explanations I have read and it was a blessing and revelation to me. God bless
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Originally Posted by Yahu View Post
While I agree with you about 'word of faith' doctrine, there is nothing wrong with going back to the paleo-hebrew. It is how the words derived their meanings. I even attended a bible college and later found out it was 'word of Faith' based. Needless to say, I only stayed the 1st year before going to a different bible college.

In English, in the word 'cat' the c, a, and t have no meaning. Only when combined together as sounds does the word have meaning. This is not true of Hebrew. Each letter was originally draw like hieroglyphics. Each letter was a picture. It was in how those letter/pictures were combined that the word derived its meaning. It was at the Babylonian captivity that the current form of Hebrew letters were developed. Moses wrote in the paleo-hebrew form which is similar to Phoenician.

Psalms 119 has a section for each Hebrew letter.

The word pictures explain many things. For example the word for 'bless' is the picture of 'fire on the head' as in the presence of the Holy Spirit. When scripture states to bless your enemy and bring down 'coals of fire on their head' it isn't a bad thing. It is a reference to bringing the Holy Spirit into their life so they can change. It is also a confirmation that the word pictures hold value by directly representing a word picture.
The gist of what you say is true, but the fact is that many teachers (sadly, some even Messianic) pass on information about the "readings" of words that are not at all correct. When you hear such a teaching, don't just accept it - research it on your own before you pass it on as valid. I couldn't tell you how many such word pictures I've heard over the years only to find after studying them out, that it was just some fantastic imagination at work. Be diligent.
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