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10th December 2003, 05:40 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | a prophet? The following prophecies, stories and visions are from a prophet (at least he says that he is) that I have known for a couple of months:
"In ten years you will find someone." (Speaking to my brother)
"In thirteen years I will be persecuted and killed (for being a Christian)." (Speaking to my brother)
"We will be married, it is God's will." (Speaking to my mother)
"God put me in place of your dad because he was not obeying Him." (Speaking to me)
"I saw two angels bickering, and I thought it was funny to see that." (Speaking to my brother)
"A 'sanctuary' will be established at your house, which will bring in prostitutes and ex-cons. You and your brother will someday run that sanctuary, within a certain amount of time. It may be three years from now, it may be fifty years from now. It will happen, it is unconditional." (Speaking to my mother first, later to me)
He said that he was rebuking his ex-wife for the things she had done and said she saw words (literally) coming out of his mouth, with echoes came from his voice with a loud noise... (Speaking to my brother)
"I know things about you that your mama don't even know." (Speaking to me)
Let me know what you all think of these. | 
10th December 2003, 06:45 PM
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11th December 2003, 12:04 PM
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It sounds REALLY odd to me.
PRAY for discernment, and also read up on biblical teaching of how to spot a false prophet.
You're in my prayers.
God bless,
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11th December 2003, 12:18 PM
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Reps: 80 (power: 0) | | Here are a couple of scripture references for you to read, study, and definately pray about. The Lord of the Holy Bible tells us to test all. If this man you speak of indeed has an eye set on the Lord and is blessed by Him to forsee things, the LORD will not mind you seaching the truth and testing this man. From what little I am able to read into your posting, I see something other than the Lord speaking to you and your family. Isaiah 44 Jerusalem to Be Inhabited
24 "This is what the LORD says-
your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb:
I am the LORD ,
who has made all things,
who alone stretched out the heavens,
who spread out the earth by myself,
25 who foils the signs of false prophets
and makes fools of diviners,
who overthrows the learning of the wise
and turns it into nonsense,
26 who carries out the words of his servants
and fulfills the predictions of his messengers,
who says of Jerusalem, 'It shall be inhabited,'
of the towns of Judah, 'They shall be built,'
and of their ruins, 'I will restore them,'
Now, if the Lord can do this for Jerusalem, He can definately do this for you. Pray earnestly, like Elijah did, to HIM, our Lord, who gives all answers and prophicies in HIS time. HE will make known to you what this man in your life is all about if you are honestly seeking the truth. Matthew 7 15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
Look here for more scripture references to false prophets: http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/...ts&version=NIV
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11th December 2003, 12:38 PM
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Reps: 95,108,860,590,478,720 (power: 95,108,860,590,506) | | | Speaking as one who operates in the Prophetic (I'm not a prophet), I'd say this person is either very young in their learning the operation of the gift or they don't have it at all and are trying to manipulate others with it. Personally, I'd lean more towards the latter.
I would say. . .don't listen to these words. Some are extremely vague and others are against scripture, such as the one about your dad and angels bickering. I would stay away from this person and just work on your relationship with the Lord and let Him speak to you directly. A true prophet should never tell you something that the Lord is not already spoken to you about. . . that is my training and experience anyway.
Be blessed.
Quaffer
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11th December 2003, 04:32 PM
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Since you posted this question in an advice and counsel forum, I will take the liberty of offering some advice and counsel. Your mother should sit down and have a long talk with his ex-wife. She should find out if this man abused his ex. She should talk to other people who have known him a long time, especially family members. She should see if what they say about him matches what he says about them and about himself.
Go to the courthouse and ask to look at the file from his previous divorce(s). Read everything in the files. Is everything you read there consistent, or are there declarations in which he and his ex tell totally different stories? Was there ever a restraining order against him?
The kinds of things this man is saying prfectly fit a pattern I have seen many times. I'm not saying just because they fit the pattern he actually is an abuser, but this should definitely be investigated. | 
12th December 2003, 12:20 PM
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Reps: 1,397 (power: 11) | | yah... sounds like this guy is dangerous. My dad was a prophet, too. Every time he beat my mom, brother or me he would say it was God punishing us for being against the head of the household. :rolleyes: And, he'd also say it was God's will for him to "witness" to prostitutes. Uh yeah, "sharing God's love"? and alllll our money? | 
12th December 2003, 05:21 PM
|  | caught inside 29  | | Join Date: 16th September 2003
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | I appreciate everyone's advice. However, this guy has shown a "nice" side. He gives good advice and really seems encouraging. I presume it all comes from a rehabilitation program which he has to take since he is on probation.
But anyway...A lot of his so-called prophecies have been contradicted, but I am really concerned that my mom is falling for these prophecies. | 
12th December 2003, 05:39 PM
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Reps: 33,707,381 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by cannot find name I appreciate everyone's advice. However, this guy has shown a "nice" side. He gives good advice and really seems encouraging. I presume it all comes from a rehabilitation program which he has to take since he is on probation.
All abusers also have a "nice" side. What is he on probation for? What kind of rehabilitation program?
Sorry, but the above are just 2 more facts that are more consistent with this guy being bad news. But anyway...A lot of his so-called prophecies have been contradicted, but I am really concerned that my mom is falling for these prophecies.
Your mom is falling for something. The prophecies are part of the package. If she shouldn't fall for the prophecies, she also probably shouldn't fall for the man. | 
12th December 2003, 06:06 PM
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Reps: 95,108,860,590,478,720 (power: 95,108,860,590,506) | | Originally Posted by cannot find name I appreciate everyone's advice. However, this guy has shown a "nice" side. He gives good advice and really seems encouraging. I presume it all comes from a rehabilitation program which he has to take since he is on probation.
But anyway...A lot of his so-called prophecies have been contradicted, but I am really concerned that my mom is falling for these prophecies.
Is the man someone in your church that is under the authority of the Pastor? If so, is the Pastor aware that he is giving such prophesies?
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