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Unread 17th July 2011, 12:12 AM
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The difference between OT and NT

Even Jesus never denied OT(someone please let me know if it was not true), I feel OT and NT have big differences.
For example,
Deuteronomy 31:5 The LORD will deliver them to you, and you must do to them all that I have commanded you. 6 Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you.”

Hebrews 13:5 Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said,

“Never will I leave you;
never will I forsake you.”

In Deuteronomy, Moses agitated the Israelites to Jericho, perhaps the biggest triumph for the Israelites.
However, in Hebrews, "be content with what you have" is written.
What a big difference!

Hebrew 13:7 Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith. 8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

Your leaders: one of them must be Moses.

If you could find a difference between OT and NT, please let us know.
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Unread 17th July 2011, 01:57 AM
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Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
Matthew 28:19-20

Who else besides Jesus Christ could be considered leader?

Maybe, Noah (Poverty), Job (Tribulation), and Daniel (Discretion)?

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Thank you, eachallberg.

I've never thought Jesus was a leader.
Not against your message, but Jesus is the ultimate goal I need to reach to, because He is the truth, without Him I never get to know.
And the Holy Spirit guides me to Him.

>Faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is Love.

Amen.
1 Corinthians 13:13
This opened my eyes by the Holy Spirit through a friend of mine.

Jesus is full of Love and truth. - John 1:14
Love=Grace=Charity

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The Old Testament is the foreshadowing of the Christ that was to come, God building up a specific group of people that he set aside to remain in the faith. The New Testament shows us the Christ who did come, lived a sinless life we could not, died on the cross in our place, arose again from the dead. From there we find out that God's plan was still set in place and now He wants this good news to be sent to all peoples.
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Thank you, LilLamb219.

I think I know that, even me.
Did you give any other thought to my question?
Could you find and kind enough to let me know the difference is between OT and NT ?
I believe a deep thinker knows something about it, and I wouldn't go wrong way by getting to know accurate useful information.

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Originally Posted by LilLamb219 View Post
God building up a specific group of people
This is an important reason for some of the differences. For example, it was forbidden to marry someone from another race in the OT, but Paul wrote, "There is neither Jew now Greek" in the NT. At first glance, one might ask why God changed His mind, but it was all part of one plan.

The fact is, the nation of Israel had to be firmly established in OT times. Intermarriage would have mixed in many other beliefs, customs, and bloodlines to the point where Israel would have had no identity. By the time Jesus came, the Jewish traditions and laws were firmly entrenched. Jesus reinforced the divinity of the OT, but brought a new perspective, and with it, the good news of the Gospel.

So now marriage between races and cultures is encouraged because we are all one in Christ Jesus (Galatians 3:28 )
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OT = condemnation (i.e. the law)
NT = salvation (i.e. the gospel)
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But there is a lot of Gospel in the OT and a lot of Law in the NT.
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Originally Posted by LilLamb219 View Post
But there is a lot of Gospel in the OT and a lot of Law in the NT.
True.
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Let's Go to this scripture below on what Jesus himself said.

What does Jesus say in verse 18. Was not the Old Testament speaking of his coming so when he came as Immunuel which means God with us. This is the other name of Jesus.

Matt 5:17 “Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose.
Matt 5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God’s law will disappear until its purpose is achieved.
Matt 5:19 So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Matt 5:20 “But I warn you—unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

This is were the misunderstanding comes in he was not sent by the Father for us the Gentiles he was sent for the following.
Matt 15:24 Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel.”


He also instructed his disciples to do the following:

Matt 10:5 Jesus sent out the twelve apostles with these instructions: “Don’t go to the Gentiles or the Samaritans,
Matt 10:6 but only to the people of Israel—God’s lost sheep.
Matt 10:7 Go and announce to them that the Kingdom of Heaven is near.
Matt 10:8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cure those with leprosy, and cast out demons. Give as freely as you have received!

As you can see from the above scripture Jesus instructed his Apostle/disciples to not go to the Gentiles or the Samaritans. The problem is that No one has been actually taught the difference. The original Apostles/disciples were Jews and they were only to take his message to the Jews. ( but only to the people of Israel—God’s lost sheep.)

Now today you have gentiles delivering a message that isn't for us. Now God (Jesus ) did chose someone to deliver another message and this message was to all humanity.
This is the person below and he was a Jew also.
Acts 9:15 But the Lord said, “Go, for Saul is my chosen instrument to take my message to the Gentiles and to kings, as well as to the people of Israel.
Acts 9:16 And I will show him how much he must suffer for my name’s sake.”

Now is the groups that the Lord chose Saul ( Apostle Paul ) all humanity and you will notice that we as Gentiles are included first in the group.

See what Apostle Paul says here:
Gal 1:15 But even before I was born, God chose me and called me by his marvelous grace. Then it pleased him
Gal 1:16 to reveal his Son to me so that I would proclaim the Good News about Jesus to the Gentiles. When this happened, I did not rush out to consult with any human being.
Gal 1:17 Nor did I go up to Jerusalem to consult with those who were apostles before I was. Instead, I went away into Arabia, and later I returned to the city of Damascus.

The reason I give you this is because every one has been taught that they are a part of God's Chosen People but they aren't.

You see Christians do not have human leaders. Jesus said he is our leader, Starting with the Jews first and equally to us the Gentiles.

I will show you were he first told his disciples. Now remember he was speaking to his disciples but that still applies today to both the Jews and Gentiles ( Us ).

Matt 23:8 “Don’t let anyone call you ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one teacher, and all of you are equal as brothers and sisters.
Matt 23:9 And don’t address anyone here on earth as ‘Father,’ for only God in heaven is your spiritual Father.
Matt 23:10 And don’t let anyone call you ‘Teacher,’ for you have only one teacher, the Messiah.
Matt 23:11 The greatest among you must be a servant.
Matt 23:12 But those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.
Matt 23:13 “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you shut the door of the Kingdom of Heaven in people’s faces. You won’t go in yourselves, and you don’t let others enter either.
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