Chrisitian right/left

I keep hearing this being stated and recently someone started a thread here commenting on the lunacy of the Christian right. Honestly I don't know what they are talking about. Christian right or left what in the heck does any of that mean? Any of us, all of us we are either Christian or we are not there is no division in Christs body. So what are people talking about when they make statements that divide the indivisible truth?

Over the years I've come to realize that a lot of people equate the gospel with the political platform of their chosen party which it's not. The right claims to be pro-life, but has no compassion on those who need various types of assistance. The left claims to care for the poor but views unborn babies as worthwhile only if the mother wants them, otherwise their death is perfectly acceptable. Both sides have some good and lots of bad in them which is why I don't subscribe to political parties.

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There are issues that the Bible speaks to, and it would be nice if Christians were unified in those areas. It is sad that we are not, but there is sin in the world.

Then, there are issues the Bible does not speak to, and Christians are allowed to differ (Romans 14). IMO, that includes issues like health care. One view might say that an employer should help his employees organize to obtain the best, most cost-effective health care plan. Another might say that is implicitly part of an employee's salary so that he has the freedom to choose the plan as he thinks best. These differing views could be labeled as "left" and "right."

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I'm not sure that it refers to a political view in everyone's mind.
To me it tends to mean which way they lean socially and spiritually. Conservative -traditional or liberal -non traditional or orthodox.

It can carry a few meanings I think.

Originally Posted by christdiedforus

I keep hearing this being stated and recently someone started a thread here commenting on the lunacy of the Christian right. Honestly I don't know what they are talking about. Christian right or left what in the heck does any of that mean? Any of us, all of us we are either Christian or we are not there is no division in Christs body. So what are people talking about when they make statements that divide the indivisible truth?

You are right! One is either a Christian or not, but of those who are truly in Christ there are also carnal ideas that things should be as pleases the flesh --that is, political, ecumenical, entertaining, rigid rules, etc. One should be sure their church fellowship is fully scriptural, non-sectarian, and without man's innovations and ideas; and there is love and devotion to Christ and each the other. We should not be dividing the truth and the fellowship of "the one body in Christ" (Rom. 12; 1 Cor.12; and Eph. 4; etc.).

- 1 Watchman

Originally Posted by green wolverine

Over the years I've come to realize that a lot of people equate the gospel with the political platform of their chosen party which it's not. The right claims to be pro-life, but has no compassion on those who need various types of assistance. The left claims to care for the poor but views unborn babies as worthwhile only if the mother wants them, otherwise their death is perfectly acceptable. Both sides have some good and lots of bad in them which is why I don't subscribe to political parties.

I disagree that people on the right have no compassion on those who need various types of assistance. I think more accurately we'd rather have the financial freedom to take part in helping those in need instead of having the government use high taxes for "programs" designed to help some of them. Other than that, I think we pretty much agree.

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True but Christians can analyze what people stand for and compare that to what the gospel of Jesus Christ says and determine who is closer to what Jesus called for.

We are.

Not true at all. Conservatives give more of their time and money to help those in need than liberals do. And if one actually studies God's word on government and compassion we find that God tasks the individual and the church with caring for those in need and indeed tells His followers flat out "put NOT your trust in princes (ie government), nor in the son of man, in whom there is NO help" (Psalm 146:3). What God actually tells us that for the things we need we should "look first to the kingdom of God and His righteousness" and they will be added to us. So what do we do? Look to the kingdom of God and His righteousness? NO, we defy God and make government something He never intended and have government care for those in need and as a result we have minimum wage laws, Social Security, Medicare and other entitlement programs, welfare programs etc. What has been the effect of these programs? The entitlement programs are bankrupting the nation, the welfare programs robbed people of initiative and led many to generational poverty, the minimum wage laws price many of those who have little if any work experience or job skills out of the job market in many areas ... in short, by dismissing God's wisdom and embracing man's wisdom we are setting ourselves up for disaster.

A holllow claim since the evidence coming in on how their policies impact the poor shows that in many cases the poor are harmed but leftists refuse to accept that evidence and continue pursuing their failed policies.

Which is deplorable.

Neither of the major parties seem to look to God (particularly the Democrats) for their guidance and both do things that conflict with what God tells us to do. The left seems actively hostile to the liberty that God would have men enjoy and elements of the right err when they try to legislate morals for example (as Christians we should preach the gospel of Christ and condemn immorality but I personally found 1 Peter 4:15 and its admonition against being busybodys in other mens matters a stinging rebuke to those who would deprive certain types of sinners rights that God does grant them).

I think there is a lesson for all here. Liberals can learn to be more giving and those on the right (the far right really) can be less...loony.

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Someone commenting on the "lunacy of the Christian right?" That says a lot right there; I'm sure the non-lunacy of the commentor stood without question?

As a body, we've an affinity for dividing for the merest of reasons - and we have since before the church began (e.g. Lk 22:24f; I Cor 1:10ff, etc.).

But politics is something different entirely. There's a wholesale dividing occurring on a global scale right now that appears securlar yet really isn't - knowing as we do that nothing which occurs here on earth is truly "secular." And the ideology behind this dividing is either drawing Christians to it or repelling them away - with the former tending to view the latter as... well, loons.

Loony? WWC, do enlighten us on what you mean by loony.