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19th July 2011, 01:21 PM
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If your using James to show obligation doesn't Gal 5:4 apply? If no, why not? Here is the verse for your convience - Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. yes, if you think that the law justifies a person.
i believe the bible, the law justifies no one. |
19th July 2011, 02:11 PM
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Reps: 1,949,189,025,844,993,792 (power: 1,949,189,025,845,007) | | Originally Posted by JohnRabbit yes, if you think that the law justifies a person.
i believe the bible, the law justifies no one.
Please explain how one is a sinner by violating the law. If one is a sinner by violation of the law what is one who obeys the law? A smart aleck answer that one is obedient won't suffice. How is one just? If one is justified by the blood, doesn't that make them just or justified?
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19th July 2011, 08:23 PM
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That the Sabbath is neither a Jewish concept, nor a Christian one. It's a God one.
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LOL... How simple and true is that? |
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http://www.christianforums.com/t7344.../#post57957426
Too many sabbath threads
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Let's ask the Tootsie Roll owl. 
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"Christ was treated as we deserve, that we might be treated as He deserves. He was condemned for our sins, in which He had no share, that we might be justified by His righteousness, in which we had no share. He suffered the death which was ours, that we might receive the life which was His." - Ellen G. White, Desire of Ages, page 25
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Reps: 120,851,430,819,729,680 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus If it is so simple, why are there a myriad of sometimes endless threads on the Sabbath?
Because there is an endless lack of understanding here about God's Sabbath. |
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20th July 2011, 04:22 AM
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Reps: 558,798,336,811,714,240 (power: 558,798,336,811,721) | | Originally Posted by from scratch Please explain how one is a sinner by violating the law. since sin is the transgression of the law (1jn 3:4),
then: James 2:8-11(NKJV) 8If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; 9but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. Originally Posted by from scratch If one is a sinner by violation of the law what is one who obeys the law? A smart aleck answer that one is obedient won't suffice. (man, you're tough!) he is one who knows the living God (1jn 2:3-4)! Originally Posted by from scratch How is one just? one is just by living by faith (hab 2:4) and walking according to the ways of God (prov 6:23, rom 2:13). Originally Posted by from scratch If one is justified by the blood, doesn't that make them just or justified? yes, one is justified by the blood of Christ (rom 5:9).
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Seems so
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