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Old 24th June 2011, 10:11 PM
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Mahatma Gandhi on Socialism.

In the current partisan environment here in America the word socialist has become a smear term. If your political opponent doesn't support enough tax cuts you call him or her socialist. It's sad really.

Anyway... here are some quotes from Gandhi on the subject of socialism. He isn't using it as an empty slur though.

Equality in Socialism
Socialism is a beautiful word and, so far as I am aware, in socialism all the members of society are equal—none low, none high. In the individual body, the head is not high because it is the top of the body, nor are the soles of the feet low because they touch the earth. Even as members of the individual body are equal, so are the members of society. This is socialism.


In it the prince and the peasant, the wealthy and the poor, the employer and employee are all on the same level. In terms of religion there is no duality in socialism. It is all unity.

Looking at society all the world over, there is nothing but duality or plurality. Unity is conspicuous by its absence. This man is high, that one is low, that is a Hindu, that a Muslim, third a Christian, fourth a Parsi, fifth a Sikh, sixth a Jew. Even among these there are sub-divisions. In the unity of my conception there is perfect unity in the plurality of designs.

In order to reach this state we may not look on things philosophically and say that we need not make a move until all are converted to socialism. Without changing our life, we may go on giving addresses, forming parties and, hawk-like, seize the game when it comes our way. This is no socialism. The more we treat it as game to be seized, the further it must recede from us.


Socialism
Real socialism has been handed down to us by our ancestors who taught: ‘All land belongs to Gopal, where then is the boundary line? Man is the maker of that line and he can therefore unmake it.’ Gopal literally means shepherd; it also means God. In modern language it means the State, i.e., the People. That the land today does not belong to the people is too true. But the fault is not in the teaching. It is in us who have not lived up to it.

I have no doubt that we can make as good an approach to it as is possible for any nation, not excluding Russia, and that without violence. (H, 2-1-1937, p. 375)
No man should have more land than he needs for dignified sustenance. Who can dispute the fact that the grinding poverty of the masses is due to their having no land that they can call their own?
(H, 20-4-1940, p. 97)


Western Socialism
I have been a sympathetic student of the Western social order and I have discovered that, underlying the fever that fills the soul of the West, there is a restless search for truth. I value that spirit. Let us study our Eastern institutions in that spirit of scientific inquiry and we shall evolve a truer socialism and a truer communism than the world has yet dreamed of. It is surely wrong to presume that Western socialism or communism is the last word on the question of mass poverty. (ABP, 3-8-1934)



Socialism was not born with the discovery of the misuse of capital by capitalists. As I have contended, socialism, even communism, is explicit in the first verse of Ishopanishad. What is true is that when some reformers lost faith in the method of conversion, the technique of what is known as scientific socialism was born. I am engaged in solving the same problem that faces scientific socialists.
It is true, however, that my approach is always and only through unadulterated non-violence. I may fail. If it does, it will be because of my ignorance of the technique of non-violence. I may be a bad exponent of the doctrine in which my faith is daily increasing. (H, 20-2-1937, p. 12)

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Just finished reading a book about Mahatma Gandhi so I had to post something about him. I found reading about his life very inspiring. I'm not an incredibly emotional or sentimental person but I have to admit a few points in the book brought a tear to my eye which is something I'm not used to. I'm usually rather stoic lol.
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Gandhi was an idiot.

Oh yes, Verv said it: Gandhi was an idiot.
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He is overrated -- the reason why his "non-violence movement" was successful is because there was violence happening to the effect of thousands of people dying, including British soldiers, and there was a total exhaustion on Britain's behalf following WWII. They had no desire to immediately send another generation of young men to die in colonial struggles.

What you are reading here is Gandhi, a fool in his own right and perhaps even a pedophile, who is now commenting on the idea of socialism.

WHat was the year? 1950? Oh, what great perspective he must have had from there!

Personally, I support some aspects of Socialism but I despise Gandhi. He was an idiot. A total fool.

I bet I know more about the Bhagavad-Gita and Hindu religion that Gandhi does,andI am not even a Hindu.

Gandhi = Foolish.
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JamesRWright (aka: Verv) is remarkable, isn't he? It's nothing new. He's held disturbing views since the day he showed up on this forum. Nobody's told him to have some decency yet. Welcome to CF.

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This is a cool link to a Penn & Teller video which exposes the racism and the pedophile practices of Gandhi.

I was aware of both of those aspects prior to seeing this but it is good to have a link to an entertaining video interviewing even Indians on the topic.

But be aware that the video contains unchristian language.


(I wanted this to be a hyperlink but it automatically became a video)

Gandhi was no Obama, ain't that for sure?
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If a person is required to have lived a perfect life in orer to be a Saint... there would be no saints. I also didn't see anything about Pedophilia in there... even the guy who is attacking him, never implies that anything sexual took place or that the "young girls" were not just women who were significantly younger than Ghandi.

Gandhi is credited with being a Saint because he led a non-violent movement to liberate his country. He understood the power of non-violence and compassion and while we shouldn't labor under the false assumption that he was perfect, we should be willing to give a lot of credence to what he has to say. He is at the very least the "George Washington" of India... and a George Washington who acheived the same objective nonviolently.

More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi


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This is a cool link to a Penn & Teller video which exposes the racism and the pedophile practices of Gandhi.

I was aware of both of those aspects prior to seeing this but it is good to have a link to an entertaining video interviewing even Indians on the topic.

But be aware that the video contains unchristian language.


(I wanted this to be a hyperlink but it automatically became a video)

Gandhi was no Obama, ain't that for sure?
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The reality is socialsim trades inequality in prosperity for equality in misery. It creates an idol in goverrnment that people are taught to look to rather than looking to God for what they need. It takes away the incentive to work hard and rewards those who lack that ambition. It substitutes man's wisdom for God's wisdom.

Europe is already feeling the strains of having immense entitlement obligations and not having the means to meet those obligations with the result that workers are protesting and even rioting demanding that no cuts be made, students are doing the same at the prospect that funding for their 'free' education may be cut back and so on. The United States is already running massive deficits, has a national debt of over 14 trillion dollars and tens of trillions more dollars of obligations in the entitlement programs.

In short the much vaunted socialism in a span of about a century is bankrupting nation after nation leaving 'the people' dependent on governments that are corrupt and too incompetent to care for them. Statist systems like socialsim are not the answer to man's problems, they only exacerbate those problems.
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If a person is required to have lived a perfect life in orer to be a Saint... there would be no saints.
Some people don't like non-violence and they get upset when they hear the naughty word "socialism" so they have to resort to attacking him as a pedophile or some other non-sense. They read it on a web page once after all!
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Gandhi was an idiot.
He wouldn't have said the same about you. That's one of the reasons I admire him. He often behaved in a truly Christ like manner with his political and religious opponents. Much better than I do. He didn't slander them or try to dehumanize them. He wouldn't even legally prosecute the people who wronged him. He forgave the people who attacked him and almost lynched him in South Africa and wouldn't testify against them for example.
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