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21st June 2011, 12:30 AM
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Every day we are exposed (at least I am in Australia) to the dangers of smoking and drinking in taxpayer funded advertising. Undoubtedly - they are uber dangerous and unhealthy. Most of us know this, but it's not a bad thing we are reminded of it.
The following video, however - is something not often seen in media - although it is among the top causes of obesity, death and disease in the west.
It is about Saturated Animal fat: The effect of animal fats on the human body | The Real Food Channel
The bible warns in Lev 3:17 among other places that the Israelites are not to eat animal fat, nor blood. I have read some Jewish opinions on the fat part - and they seem to be somewhat legalistic and hyper-interpretive - like "only fat from this part is not ok".
Given the info and testimony in the above video - I'm going to trust the plain language of Leviticus - no more animal fats, no more artifical fats (hydrogenated fats, fried foods) It still means I can have my boneless, skinless chicken breast and egg whites - just add olive or chia oil or other healthy fats if I want them after they are cooked.
Thoughts? I know this is a somewhat controversial subject.
Edit: Ok, a little further along into the video the guy tries to create an upper limit for protein, generally speaking - and this is where I differ with him - protein requirements vary from individual to individual, depending on height, frame and kinds of activities they do. Ok...but not to throw the baby out with the bathwater...
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21st June 2011, 02:21 AM
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21st June 2011, 03:24 AM
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Reps: 1,096,579,883,388,968,832 (power: 1,096,579,883,388,978) | | Originally Posted by Revived You've seen what my diet revolves around (in the Life Stages forum). For the most part, I've cut out all fried foods, artificial, hydrogenated and saturated fats and I'm becoming more and more conscientious regarding the foods that I eat (by examining and comparing labels, by rarely eating out, etc). And like you, I'm sticking to Leviticus.
Yes, I remember, and that's awesome. I personally think there was a little too much push in the video for a vegetarian diet - it's going to turn alot of people off - but the points made about saturated animal fat is a message that needs to be heard. I mean - eating egg whites is not the same as eating fatty pork or other fatty meat - at least from a artery clogging perspective.
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21st June 2011, 09:12 AM
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Reps: 3,210,422,186,075,719,168 (power: 3,210,422,186,075,752) | | | I believe the Bible is pretty specific that 1) we aren't under the Law or obligated to follow the dietary restrictions, regardless of whether or not someone believes they're 'healthy', and that 2) all food is permissible, and each person should eat according to their own conscience.
If someone believes that being vegetarian is the ONLY way, that's fine. If someone believes being vegan is the ONLY way, that's fine. If someone believes eating organically is the ONLY way, that's fine. Eat what you want. Just don't treat others as if they're ignorant or stupid for not mimicking you, or that they're ravaging their bodies and will keel over of a premature death because they had some fried food. Not saying that the OP was doing this, but a lot of "healthy eaters" come across this way, and it's flippin' annoying.
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21st June 2011, 09:27 AM
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Yeah, not everyone is equipped to be naturally veggie or vegan. I've seen some intense symptoms from people who went veggie and couldn't keep up their protein and iron intakes.
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21st June 2011, 01:01 PM
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Reps: 845,827,143,545,163,520 (power: 0) | | | I personally think we need animal proteins and animal fats for optimal health, in reasonable amounts of course. Be it beef, pork, chicken...
With the intensity of the workouts/lifestyle that I live, my eyeballs would roll to the back of my head and I'd pass out if it weren't for good ole animal protein/fats. | 
21st June 2011, 01:06 PM
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21st June 2011, 01:12 PM
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21st June 2011, 01:17 PM
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Reps: 4,892,697,190,699,868,160 (power: 4,892,697,190,699,881) | | Originally Posted by Zilam Another one that most people ignore and consume in just about everything: High Fructose Corn Syrup, which was recently shown to fuel the growth of colon cancer, I believe. Enjoy your next sodie!
Agreed. HFCS also "prompts considerably more weight gain."
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21st June 2011, 01:43 PM
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Reps: 4,018,417,753,630,599,168 (power: 4,018,417,753,630,619) | | Originally Posted by Zilam Another one that most people ignore and consume in just about everything: High Fructose Corn Syrup, which was recently shown to fuel the growth of colon cancer, I believe. Enjoy your next sodie!
Enjoy your next everything. I swear, that junk is in everything. I already read labels of all food purchases because I look for how much sugar and calories there are in an item per serving. But I don't think most people realize that even many brands of regular bread have HFCS in it. I avoid it HFCS when I can (like buying a particular brand of bread that doesn't contain it), but it can be hard to avoid sometimes.
ETA: To be honest, saturated animal fat is something that I do ignore. It just gets so frustrating to be so extremely careful with every little thing you eat. As it is, I don't eat that much meat. I went three years being pescetarian (one year as a total vegetarian), but I do still like to eat meat now. I have a new appreciation for hamburgers after going three years without them.
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