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12th June 2011, 12:10 AM
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Reps: 8,198,173,793,109,807,104 (power: 8,198,173,793,109,838) | | Originally Posted by chris4243  God did indeed make man in His image, and God is a creator and so is man. Just wondering, do you folks also think it a terrible thing that we have created organisms that make human insulin? And is it really that terrible that people want to improve the nutrition babies receive (for those who give their baby cow milk)?
The method is questionable at best. And consider:
Milk cows are used for processed meats (deli meats) when they have outlived their usefulness.
What will happen to these milk cows ?
Outcome studies on other GM foods have been short term; what of the now discovered deleterious consequences ?
Would it be unreasonable to anticipate potential unintended consequences here ?
Please see my previous post on known outcomes of formula use for infant feeding among the poor.
Please see my previous post on potential consequences of incompatible human genes on the immature gut of an infant.
Please see Paul re: types of 'flesh' as differentiated.
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12th June 2011, 12:20 AM
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Pesticides associated to genetically modified foods (PAGMF), are engineered to tolerate herbicides such as glyphosate (GLYP) and gluphosinate (GLUF) or insecticides such as the bacterial toxin bacillus thuringiensis (Bt). The aim of this study was to evaluate the correlation between maternal and fetal exposure, and to determine exposure levels of GLYP and its metabolite aminomethyl phosphoric acid (AMPA), GLUF and its metabolite 3-methylphosphinicopropionic acid (3-MPPA) and Cry1Ab protein (a Bt toxin) in Eastern Townships of Quebec, Canada. Blood of thirty pregnant women (PW) and thirty-nine nonpregnant women (NPW) were studied. Serum GLYP and GLUF were detected in NPW and not detected in PW. Serum 3-MPPA and CryAb1 toxin were detected in PW, their fetuses and NPW. This is the first study to reveal the presence of circulating PAGMF in women with and without pregnancy, paving the way for a new field in reproductive toxicology including nutrition and utero-placental toxicities.
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PMID:21338670 [PubMed - in process]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21338670
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12th June 2011, 12:29 AM
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Reps: 6,391,018,053,877,761,024 (power: 6,391,018,053,877,810) | | Originally Posted by chris4243 God did indeed make man in His image, and God is a creator and so is man. Just wondering, do you folks also think it a terrible thing that we have created organisms that make human insulin? And is it really that terrible that people want to improve the nutrition babies receive (for those who give their baby cow milk)?
I think it is an artificially made not reproduction of the actual human.
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12th June 2011, 12:33 AM
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Argentine lab clones cow to produce human-like milk - Yahoo! News
(The calf, at birth by Ceasarian, weighed twice the amount of the average calf.)
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12th June 2011, 12:34 AM
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Are you being skeptical? I thought your mind was already made up... Just saying here. I know I am not skeptical at all at this point. I do not want to eat cow meat that has a human gene. Do you?
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12th June 2011, 12:44 AM
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Of course; as the article has said it is closer.
But, that is not the issue.
As before, the particular method is:
For the new study, Ning Li, of China Agricultural University in Beijing, and colleagues used standard genetic cloning techniques. They began with easy-to-acquire human genes that both make lysozyme and regulate its expression. They put those genes into cow cells, and they created embryos that contained those genes in their mammary glands.
This does not respond to any of the particular concerns I have raised in my posts.
When the Argentinian cow Rosita, or the Chinese cow no longer produces milk, will you be willing to eat the bologna made from these cows ?
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Reps: 90,205,372,677,417,664 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Thekla Of course; as the article has said it is closer.
But, that is not the issue.
As before, the particular method is:
This does not respond to any of the particular concerns I have raised in my posts.
When the Argentinian cow Rosita, or the Chinese cow no longer produces milk, will you be willing to eat the bologna made from these cows ?
Are you willing to swallow your own saliva? |
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Reps: 6,391,018,053,877,761,024 (power: 6,391,018,053,877,810) | | Originally Posted by chris4243 Are you willing to swallow your own saliva?
is saliva meant to be swollowed? Are human genes meant to be eaten by humans?
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