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Originally Posted by MaryEmily View Post
Well, I am being confirmed this weekend. Finished my classes and am really excited about it. I've been looking forward to this day since last fall when I began investigating Lutheranism.

What exactly do they do in the LCMS at an adult's confirmation? The pastor said it was nothing to get worked up about (as in worry). I'm one of those type A people and I like to know what/when/where/how/etc... I'm sure it will be just fine but I have this dread I'll get up there and not be able to say a word. You know???
MaryEmily,
first congrats and blessings on your upcoming confirmation. Thanks be to God the Holy Spirit for the working he has done in you.
It really depends on the congregation and pastor, but I imagine if the pastor says not to get worked up, then don't get worked up. If you freeze, just take some time. Don't think of any answers as answering a test, think of it as proclaiming what you believe. If you look to the catechism for example that way, it becomes easier. If you cannot remember the word for word answer, just start saying what you believe about such and such in your own words, and the answer may come back to you by looking towards the content.

And always remember, creed questions end with "this is most certainly true" and pretty much all commandments begin with "I should fear and love God" (or however your translation particularly words it).
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Thank you for the replies. I will remember to breathe. I am so excited, I can hardly contain myself. It's been a wonderful process of learning and growing. I hope the week goes fast. It's hard to concentrate on work. I think I'm more excited than when I was getting married!

I wish I'd figured this all out earlier in my life. That way I'd have had more years to give to the Lord in this. Oh well, better late than never. Did I mention I'm excited? Oh and my husband has promised to go with me this time to church. There may be hope for him yet. I keep praying for him to wake up.

Better get to bed, 5am comes early. I just can't stop mulling it all over in my mind. Just think, communion, being there. Wow.
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Originally Posted by MaryEmily View Post
Well, I am being confirmed this weekend. Finished my classes and am really excited about it. I've been looking forward to this day since last fall when I began investigating Lutheranism.

What exactly do they do in the LCMS at an adult's confirmation? The pastor said it was nothing to get worked up about (as in worry). I'm one of those type A people and I like to know what/when/where/how/etc... I'm sure it will be just fine but I have this dread I'll get up there and not be able to say a word. You know???
They have to do a blood test to see if your a real Lutheran.

(Any other Lutherans here get a kick out of the pastor in the movie Raising Helen? If you havn't seen this movie, you are missing out.)
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Originally Posted by doulos_tou_kuriou View Post
One of the things I'm saying is that if you do a separate 1st communion class sooner (or in cases like some ELCA churches do not require formal instruction prior to reception) then correct reception of communion no longer becomes the impetus behind the instruction.

Although I do believe every Lutheran should learn the catechism. It's more the process as a whole of how we've done it that I wonder about. I am not in favor of forgoing instruction (although I will note many Lutheran congregations--including non-ELCA have not done a good job at instruction, and often have made instruction either irrelevant to or not a significant part of confirmation).


Maybe I'm misunderstanding or missing something here. Above you've said that some ELCA churches do not require formal instruction prior to reception, I'm guessing you're talking about Communion. How is this good? Wouldn't these kids, who have not been properly instructed as to what Communion is, be receiving it unworthily and to their detriment, because they have not been properly taught what it is they are receiving?
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Originally Posted by Zecryphon View Post

Maybe I'm misunderstanding or missing something here. Above you've said that some ELCA churches do not require formal instruction prior to reception, I'm guessing you're talking about Communion. How is this good? Wouldn't these kids, who have not been properly instructed as to what Communion is, be receiving it unworthily and to their detriment, because they have not been properly taught what it is they are receiving?
All I'm saying is that in many churches that implied impetus for confirmation (instruction prior to communion) no longer exists either because it was removed altogether or is done at an earlier time.
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as coincidence would have it, this weekend I came across this book at half-price books, and given the current conversations felt it wise for me to get it for my own sake:

Confirmation: Engaging Lutheran Foundations and Practices
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Originally Posted by doulos_tou_kuriou View Post
All I'm saying is that in many churches that implied impetus for confirmation (instruction prior to communion) no longer exists either because it was removed altogether or is done at an earlier time.


Then that implied impetus needs to be brought back. We can't have anyone eating and drinking judgment upon themselves because they haven't been properly instructed.
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Then that implied impetus needs to be brought back. We can't have anyone eating and drinking judgment upon themselves because they haven't been properly instructed.
We should be clear though that when we discuss eating worthily as Lutherans we talk only and always about possessing faith. For only by faith is the forgiveness received and only by lacking faith does one eat and drink to their own damnation (that is to say, it does not justify ex opera operato).
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We should be clear though that when we discuss eating worthily as Lutherans we talk only and always about possessing faith. For only by faith is the forgiveness received and only by lacking faith does one eat and drink to their own damnation (that is to say, it does not justify ex opera operato).
The pastor at my church actually had a conversation with us about this. Apparently up until 1218 if you were baptized you took communion, no age or educational restrictions were placed on it. I can get more information if you want.
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The pastor at my church actually had a conversation with us about this. Apparently up until 1218 if you were baptized you took communion, no age or educational restrictions were placed on it. I can get more information if you want.
In Finland, confirmation has its roots in the Reformation and the post-reformation era of the 1600s, when the reformers felt that preserving the purity of doctrine was of vital importance lest congregations lapsed back to their old Roman Catholic ways. Thus confirmation training came into being, to retain and develop through education that which was found to be right and pure doctrine.

I think it is still just as important as it was back then 400 years ago, with so many false and cultish new "end of world" or whatever stuff out there.
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