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21st May 2011, 11:12 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,782) | | | President Barack Obama is the President of the USA,Commander-in-Chief of America's armed forces, Husband to one wife Michelle Obama, Father to two girls, Malia and Shasha, master to one dog named Bo,Son-in-law to Marian, brother-in-law to Craig,friend to many, and I believe child of God, by confession of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, public baptism, and given the right hand in fellowship into the body of Christ.These are the facts. Anything else is speculation and lies, therefore the work of Satan the father of lies. |
21st May 2011, 11:48 AM
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Reps: 385,104,474,204,580,352 (power: 385,104,474,204,584) | | Originally Posted by John S  Barack Obama is the President of the United States of America. His religious affiliation is irrelevant to anything that relates to the job that he was elected to perform.
How about his moral affiliation? Adherence to God's holiness, dedication to personal righteousness and commiitment to justice should be relevant. Afterall, un-Godly people in powerful positions in government are doing severe harm to the liberty and economic wellbeing of the United States. The United States believes in the policy of "separation of church and state".
I don't. I believe in "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of relgion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." I believe in what was actually debated, voted upon and ratified, NOT a philosophy purportedly based on the separation of church and state that Thomas Jefferson mentioned in a letter (and actually what Jefferson was sayiing to the Danbury Baptists was that they need not fear that the government could dictate to them on how they must practice their religion or could in any way curtail the practice of their religion) ... of course the practical effect of separation of church and state as it is being practiced in the U.S has been a prohibition by government of the free exercise of religion. As long as he doesn't force his religious beliefs on any other American, I don't care what his beliefs - or non-beliefs - are.
I wish the same concern was shown towards a President who tries to force his secular beliefs on the American people.  |
21st May 2011, 11:56 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,782) | | How about his moral affiliation? Adherence to God's holiness, dedication to personal righteousness and commiitment to justice should be relevant.
How about yours? Get the beam out of your own eye first. |
21st May 2011, 12:02 PM
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Reps: 385,104,474,204,580,352 (power: 385,104,474,204,584) | | Originally Posted by Handmaid for Jesus How about yours? Get the beam out of your own eye first.
So you've judged I do have a beam in my own eye. We can compare what I'm saying with the word of God and see if they match. If they don't then I might have a beam in my eye. If they do match, perhaps the beam you see in my eye is only the reflection of the beam in YOUR eye. |
21st May 2011, 01:24 PM
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21st May 2011, 01:32 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,782) | | Originally Posted by talitha He's a pawn.
He is a man. |
21st May 2011, 01:52 PM
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Reps: 19,519,569,640,520,128 (power: 19,519,569,640,523) | | Originally Posted by GrannieAnnie EXACTLY....believe it or not...the world does NOT revolve around the US of A, there are some of us ... earthlings .... who live in other places.  I hear about what happens in other "foreign" parts of the world, but Australia is my home...I'm a 4th generation Aussie... and what happens here is most important to me.
However, our Prime Minister....Julia Gillard...is a confessed atheist, she lives with her partner (not married) he claims to be a church going Christian. I don't care what her personal beliefs are, she was democratically voted into her political position by the Australian public. And as far as I'm concerned.... Christ is still the only "person" in charge of the world and my life. I don't have a problem with having a simple faith and trust in Jesus.
Yup, I'm definitely for praying over our leaders. And I mean world leaders in all arenas like government, entertainment, education, media, church, economy, and family. They need our prayer and encouragement. Whether they listen or not, it's out of obedience to God. He sets up or takes down authority in His time and season. He can also choose to sovereignly move through anyone believer or not.
I would say with a general sense, for the time being, USA does seem to be in a global spotlight, whether it's positive/negative or whether you want to believe that or not. Until Jesus returns and becomes the ultimate authority that everyone acknowledges, we do have to be concerned with those whose decisions affect the world around us by praying they're decisions ultimately line up with God's plans.
I agree that the answer is Jesus. |
21st May 2011, 01:55 PM
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Reps: 579,001,527,035,067,776 (power: 579,001,527,035,071) | | | Yes, he is a man and the President of the United States. As Christians we are to pray for all that are in authority. (1 Timothy 2:2) We are to pray that the decisions being made by those in authority are godly and what is good for our country so that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; This should be done regardless of any "feelings" and "speculations" that abound. |
21st May 2011, 02:19 PM
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Reps: 271,573,656,411,620,480 (power: 271,573,656,411,636) | | | Definitely we should pray for this man to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ, and that he be receptive to godly wisdom. And that he be voted out of office in the next election if these things do not begin to happen. Soon.
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21st May 2011, 02:33 PM
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Reps: 598,555,612,632,307,712 (power: 598,555,612,632,312) | | Speculation? Did anyone actually read my post? It's all in his own words. A Christian doesn't think there are many paths, nor would a Christian attack the sermon on the mount.
I wouldn't care about his religious affiliation if he was elected on those terms..but he wasn't. He was elected as a Christian. If he isn't a Christian that is a terrible thing for everyone in the world.
I guess no one in this thread has any spiritual discernment what so ever.
Nor do you seem to realize that the president of the United States is the most powerful and influential man in the world, and it DOES matter, no matter what country you're in, if he is lying about being Christian. Originally Posted by Handmaid for Jesus President Barack Obama is the President of the USA,Commander-in-Chief of America's armed forces, Husband to one wife Michelle Obama, Father to two girls, Malia and Shasha, master to one dog named Bo,Son-in-law to Marian, brother-in-law to Craig,friend to many, and I believe child of God, by confession of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, public baptism, and given the right hand in fellowship into the body of Christ.These are the facts. Anything else is speculation and lies, therefore the work of Satan the father of lies. | | |
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