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High vs Low and Liberal vs. Conservative

I've been attending the same Anglican church for 10 years and I don't understand the difference between the terms "high church" or "low church". I also have no clue if my church is "liberal" or "conservative". Help me clarify the differences. I assume that if I attended a different church that I might have a different worship experience.
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I've been attending the same Anglican church for 10 years and I don't understand the difference between the terms "high church" or "low church". I also have no clue if my church is "liberal" or "conservative". Help me clarify the differences. I assume that if I attended a different church that I might have a different worship experience.
well in a High Anglican Church you would see more images and statues of saints than you would at a low church. youd see alot of Insence in High Anglican services, priestly vesments, and more times than not High-church Anglicans (at least in Australia) use the Anglican missal (which is a Anglican version of the Old Roman Mass with afew Anglican additions) rather than the Book of common prayer. Alot of High-churchmen themselves might say the rosary or other common catholic devotions. and their Eucharistic theolgoy is often on-pa with Roman Catholics (though not always)

Low Churchman generaly dont use insence, wont have images of saints, very few vestments, wont say the rosary, and their Eucharistic theology may include some form of 'real presence' but definatly not to the same extent as their High church brothers and sisters.

However dont take this list as comprehensive....as nothing about Anglicanism is.

In this day and age alot of the Anglican Communion doesnt fit into this 'High Church' 'Low Church' catogray, alot of the Anglican church would define itself as 'broad-Church' which generaly takes bits and pieces of both traditions...though based on what ive seen broad church anglcians are generly seem more inclined to more high-Church theology and practises whilst still allowing for a low-church interruption.

now as for liberal or conservitive.....who knows what this means anymore....does your church support the ordination of women? (to alot of people that is a sign of being liberal) or an all-male priesthood (conservitive).

some High Churches are liberal, some are not.
some low churches are liberal, some are not.
the broad church is generaly considered liberal (and mainstream)

...all this probably just makes you more confused than ever before, but thats Anglicism for ya lol
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Conservatives generally means sticking to the 39 Articles I reckon!

I'm an Evangelical Anglican, which means we tend to be charismatic, low church which pick the best bits of High Anglicanism, with conservative beliefs, but some form of liberal theology too; i.e women in leadership etc.
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Oh another thing that is abit of a tell-tail sign of what level of Churchmanship an Anglican Church is is by its frequency in celebrating the Eucharist.

regular celebration of the Eucharist is a High/Broad Church idea. where as Low Churchman dont generaly see the need...at least historically.

The only real Low-church area left in modern Anglicism is the Diocese of Sydney here in Australia....but I have serious doubts if they can even be called Anglican...some of their theology is so low/reformed that Calvin himself would blush.
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Conservatives generally means sticking to the 39 Articles I reckon!
I've never meet an Anglican who agreed with all 39, Low or High lol
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Originally Posted by aussie_anglican View Post
I've never meet an Anglican who agreed with all 39, Low or High lol
Really? Wow! Mind you, you Aussies are a bunch of rebels

In the UK, if you're a Jesus lover, someone who believes that in order to be right with God, you trust in his death on the cross for God to forgive your sin, then you live a crazily passionate life in order to serve him and tell others the good news, then you're an Evangelical Anglican who's usually charismatic

Thats the area of Anglicanism thats growing the fastest in the UK.
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Really? Wow! Mind you, you Aussies are a bunch of rebels

In the UK, if you're a Jesus lover, someone who believes that in order to be right with God, you trust in his death on the cross for God to forgive your sin, then you live a crazily passionate life in order to serve him and tell others the good news, then you're an Evangelical Anglican who's usually charismatic

Thats the area of Anglicanism thats growing the fastest in the UK.
what does that have to do with the 39 articles of religon? thats what all christians should put their trust in Jesus.

..but beyond that not all Anglican belive in the finer points of the 39 articles....to alot of Anglicans they are guides but not binding.

and untop of that the 39 Articles are not officially normative in all Anglican Churches of the world. and never have been. only in england I belive they are binding. The only doctrinal documents agreed upon in the Anglican Communion are the Apostolic Creed, the Nicene Creed and the Chicago-Lambeth Quadrilateral NOT the 39 Articles!
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in fact im in favour of the 39 articles being renamed "the 39 suggestions" lol
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Unfortunately there are Anglicans who don't trust in Jesus. Certain Bishops have even said they don't believe in God!

I love the Anglican church, but I do get embarrassed and upset by it at times.
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The vast majority of parishes are not very high and not very low. So there is a good chance that your parish may be one of these. As well, these days there tends to be in many parishes a kind of different feel altogether that comes from a totally different direction than high or low.

In a high sevice you might see fancier vestments, possibly more elevations of the Eucharist during the prayer or even bells, pictures or statues or more ephasis on commemorating saints festivals, and maybe incense.

In a Low parish the priest might wear a surplice and a stole, you might have a tablle rather than an altar and the priest might celebrate standing at one end instead of the middle, you might see lots of commemorative plaques instead of saints, and there might be long sermons.

But it is hard to generalize. My parish is high but started originally as low, and so has few images, and the sermons are long.

Maybe you could describe your parish? The theological emphasis is also an issue here.

As far as Liberal - hard to say because some people tend to use it for whatever they don't like. But most properly a conservative view sees that Scripture and possibly the Tradition of the Church contain inerrant information, and we are obliged to act on that. (That doesn't mean we have to be fundamentalists or literalists though.) A liberal viewpoint takes Scripture as a man-made inspired work, but one which is not inerrant, so we can do something else if we deem it more appropriate.

The 39 Articles are not really a matter of being conservative or liberal - there are plenty of conservative Anglicans who don't feel bound by them, though the liberals probably almost never do I would think.
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