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25th April 2011, 01:58 PM
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No, I do not doubt ANY of those atrocities! What I doubt is the accusation that it was REAL Christians who caused it and/or did it. That is why I asked for details. As I have written in so many other posts (and I realize you may not have seen them) I believe there are those that this world considers "Christians" and yet, I do NOT, because I do not think they fit the Biblical criterion for a Christian. I believe that this is just another ploy of the devil to distract and destroy the real meaning and experience of Christianity, and thereby, keep people at arms length and away from God. The lies about God that ALL the bad in the world is from Him, and of course, NONE of the good, is rampant, and I was pointing to the fact that it is satan and people worshipping and serving him that bring about these circumstances in the earth and NOT God. If the lies are going to be continually perpetrated then I am going to be a voice that speaks against them. Contrary to popular opinion God is FOR humanity and NOT against it!!
You blame Satan yet forget that he was God's creation and an archangel at that. Archangel means chief of the angels and next to God as near perfect as possible, yet; you blame Satan for all the ills and give him more power than the omniscient God you worship?
A very confusing situation if I may say so! 
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25th April 2011, 02:53 PM
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Reps: 52,938,031,960,264,072 (power: 52,938,031,960,273) | | Originally Posted by mzungu You blame Satan yet forget that he was God's creation and an archangel at that. Archangel means chief of the angels and next to God as near perfect as possible, yet; you blame Satan for all the ills and give him more power than the omniscient God you worship?
A very confusing situation if I may say so! I don't blame God for cantankerous, whining atheists either. That is their choice and not His fault, the same as satan had his choice. Not be fooled, in the end BOTH will be dealt with by God. Satan had his time and it is over for him. His fate is sealed and it will be dealt with by God. This is man's time, we still have hope, but in the end, we will ALL be dealt with by God. He's already explained it and made it very clear what you should choose. Don't blame Him if YOU choose wrong. I won't.
God is so superior to both satan and man and WILL have HIS way. He has offered it to all His creation. He's not to be blamed if they refuse it. He is the righteous Judge and EVERY KNEE will bow and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!!! That means you and your buddies whether it is a forced bow or a willing bow. That is your choice. You WILL bow!!!
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25th April 2011, 02:58 PM
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It's only Kool Aid. It's not that bad.
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25th April 2011, 02:59 PM
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Reps: 211,804,806,161,371,424 (power: 211,804,806,161,380) | | Originally Posted by Inan3 I don't blame God for cantankerous, whining atheists either. That is their choice and not His fault, the same as satan had his choice.
I don't believe a choice exists as I don't believe that God exists.
Not be fooled, in the end BOTH will be dealt with by God. Satan had his time and it is over for him. His fate is sealed and it will be dealt with by God. This is man's time, we still have hope, but in the end, we will ALL be dealt with by God. He's already explained it and made it very clear what you should choose. Don't blame Him if YOU choose wrong. I won't.
I have no reason whatsoever to preference your explanation over the explanation of a Muslim regarding Islam. You appear to be supporting the immoral idea of thought-crime: that one deserves to be punished for what they think, or could not think.
God is so superior to both satan and man and WILL have HIS way. He has offered it to all His creation. He's not to be blamed if they refuse it. He is the righteous Judge and EVERY KNEE will bow and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!!! That means you and your buddies whether it is a forced bow or a willing bow. That is your 1choice. You WILL bow!!!
You may type in pink but your agenda might as well be in blood red.
How, pray tell, do you imagine any of the above makes the God you describe out to be anything other than rephrensible and completely unworthy of worship?
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25th April 2011, 03:09 PM
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Reps: 600,247,018,091,406,848 (power: 600,247,018,091,414) | | Originally Posted by Inan3 I don't blame God for cantankerous, whining atheists either. That is their choice and not His fault, the same as satan had his choice. Not be fooled, in the end BOTH will be dealt with by God. Satan had his time and it is over for him. His fate is sealed and it will be dealt with by God. This is man's time, we still have hope, but in the end, we will ALL be dealt with by God. He's already explained it and made it very clear what you should choose. Don't blame Him if YOU choose wrong. I won't.
God is so superior to both satan and man and WILL have HIS way. He has offered it to all His creation. He's not to be blamed if they refuse it. He is the righteous Judge and EVERY KNEE will bow and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!!! That means you and your buddies whether it is a forced bow or a willing bow. That is your choice. You WILL bow!!!
You do realise that threatening adults with damnation will only make their resolve to dismiss your God even more! You do realise that in other Christian Churches you may be considered a heretic and thus not worthy of the kingdom of heaven?
Jesus never forced anyone to follow him and neither did he threaten anyone. The Orthodox Church says that one will not necessarily go to hell if he is an unbeliever but it is better if he follows Christ. That is why it is forbidden to proselytise for one comes to the church out of his free will and not out of coercion nor threats!
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25th April 2011, 03:21 PM
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Precisely why I don't follow books that promote that kind of thinking. A Dios rogando y con el mazo dando.
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25th April 2011, 03:30 PM
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Adios rogando = the atheists' motto ?
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25th April 2011, 03:51 PM
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Reps: 148,392,160,409,284,832 (power: 148,392,160,409,294) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET Adios rogando = the atheists' motto ? 
L2Spanish IMO or alternatively, ask a Spanish speaker what it means.
It translates to "Praying to God and swinging the mace." Meaning that while you're praying to god for something, you should be working hard for it. "Praying to God" sounds like the atheists' motto to you?
Edit: Oh! You got me! I just noticed your little twist of words! haha
Nice! But no... "Adios rogar." would actually have meaning in Spanish.
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25th April 2011, 03:57 PM
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What's the Spanish word for 'prayer' (noun)?
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25th April 2011, 04:01 PM
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What's the Spanish word for 'prayer' (noun)?
"Oración" is usually the most common one but "rezo" also works.
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