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Old 21st March 2011, 07:04 PM
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why should I trust God?

I've sacrificed tons for God. I've been rejected by my own family for following him; it caused a rift in the relationship I had with my dad. All of the things I've done for God were out of love and obedience and loyalty for him. When I help others it's because I believe it's the right thing to do....and because I enjoy helping other ppl, as well as it's my way of sharing God's love to ppl and showing my love to him.

People suggest reading the word, praying, going to church, etc. However if I were to do these things, it wouldn't be sincere, and that to me is just as rude and disrespectful to God as sinning against him.

I spent time in prayer and waited for signs of what I thought he called me to. Then when I though I knew what he'd called me to, I put forth all of my time, efforts, energy, and concentration.

I thought God was supposed to reward those who were faithful for him, loyal to him, and those who endure pain, suffering, rejection, etc. etc. for him....all of which I've done. I don't just mean in the afterlife in heaven, I mean while here on earth too.

However despite doing all of this, my life ended up in shambles. I was uprooted from everything and everyone I love.

I KNOW the purposes of sanctification and persecution and refinement are and what they serve; that's what 90% of my walk with God has been.

I don't need to be told life is unfair I already know this from past experience in my own life.

Why should I trust God? I prayed to him for things to improve, for providing opportunities for things to get better; I used the resources and opportunities he made available to me while trying to trust him that things would get better and trying to believe he'd provide for me.

Despite doing that, things still haven't improved. Whenever things are on the verge of getting better, something without fail happens to wreck it.

I know that waiting builds character, but I'm sick to death of waiting.
I'm exhausted in every aspect of the word.....emotionally, spiritually, physically. I hate my life and stay alive for the sake of others. If it weren't for them, I'd already be dead. Quite frankly I don't even think people would care if I were gone, because most of my 'friends' treat me like I don't exist, so that tells me they don't care.

They say they do but actions speak louder than words. I don't care if it's intentional or not, it still hurt.
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Old 21st March 2011, 07:39 PM
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I'd like to start off by saying that when you feel like NOT reading your bible, going to church, etc: that's when you need it the most, even if you feel it's disrespectful to God. He's endlessly forgiving and patient. He's forgiven you for much more than just reading your bible when you didn't feel like it or going to church in a bad mood. You're right, God does reward us in not only the afterlife, but here, on Earth. A big part of recognizing that is having a thankful, loving heart. He's taken you out of the situation that you "loved" for a reason, and He takes us out of our comfort zone all of the time; embrace it. A verse that sticks out to me right now is 1 Corinthians 13:13 "And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love." (NIV) Love is greater than faith and hope, but the latter two are incredibly important as well!

Things could be improving, but you may not even notice it because it seems like you're so caught up in what is YOUR idea of better. Sit back and just do what you feel God wants you to do. God has His plan working in your life, and the plans he has for you are so you can live life abundantly and bring glory and honor to His name!

I think we would all rather be dead and in heaven with our Father, but some of us (like you) have a passion for people, to show them what Christ has done for our lives. If I was to kill myself, I wouldn't worry whether people would notice my absence, I would be worrying what God would think, because that's the only opinion that truly matters.

My advice: Go to church and get involved, read your Bible regardless of how you feel. Develop a hunger for His word and presence, ask Him for a loving, thankful heart. Pray for peace that surpasses all understanding.
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Old 21st March 2011, 08:45 PM
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Walking with God is not always an easy thing. My family has been through many struggles as well. Like you, my parents have always felt called to work with those in need. My parents have dedicated their lives to helping people, especially teenagers. This is by far one of the hardest age groups to work with imo. Many parents have welcomed more than 100 kids into their home over the years, and have been hurt by most of them.

These children come in with addictions to drugs and alcohol. They come in pregnant at the age of 14 or 15. They come in from broken homes where no one cared for them. They come in from families were relatives raped them. All of them suffering and struggling with problems. My parents gave them a home to live in and a family that loved them. That was something most of them had never experienced before.

My parents loved these children like their own, and most of them betrayed my parents and did whatever they could to hurt them before they left. My parents and my family were often deeply hurt by them. My parents thought frequently about quitting but never did. They struggled on even though it cost them relationships with almost all of our relatives.

My dad's family did not want to see these Children, they did not want them to come to family events. Most of the time, that meant that we defied them and were treated badly, or we just didn't go. It got to the point were we were not invited to family weddings, birthdays, or other celebrations anymore. My parent's refused to treat these children differently than those related to them by blood, and the rest of my family refused to accept that.

Throughout their lives I have watched my parents struggle. I watched them do this service, and they seemed to recieve nothing from it but pain. I didn't understand where they found the strength to keep going. My parents struggled with money issues and many times had trouble making ends meet. We had Christmasses and birthdays where there was nothing to recieve. We had nights when the food on the table was scarce. My parents had frequent worries about being able to pay bills and keep the house. I didn't know why od wasn't blessing them more for their service to him.

Finally after more than 30 years of service I have seen a change. My parents are welcome again at family events. My uncle and aunt even bring foster children of their own to events. My parents have become not only financially stable, but blessed. My father now manages a big company, and recently worked out a deal that will make him personally millions. Money that he will use to fulfill his dream of building a camp for children like those he has been helping for years.

Finally after more than 30 years I see God blessing my family for their service to him. It taught me a very important lesson. Things work not according to our schedule and our wants, but according to God's time. When we serve him diligently, we will go through suffering and hardship, but his blessings will come.
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Old 21st March 2011, 09:41 PM
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It sounds like you are saying, Musician, that you have done a lot for God so that is what counts and He should be happy about that. No, that is not what pleases Him; it is receiving His beloved Son, the Lord Jesus, into your heart and worshipping Him.

We need to be very thankful that our Creator made us, and though we fell in sin He came to our rescue and sent His beloved Son to die for us so we can be saved. If we don't receive Him we will have no part in God --the Father. Maybe you know that, but I did not see that kind of appreciation expressed.

Salvation and Godliness is not about good works, but faith in the atoning work of Christ who did the work on the cross. Certainly we should live for Him, be thankful, and serve Him, but we need to get the priorities straight.

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I've sacrificed tons for God. I've been rejected by my own family for following him; it caused a rift in the relationship I had with my dad. All of the things I've done for God were out of love and obedience and loyalty for him. When I help others it's because I believe it's the right thing to do....and because I enjoy helping other ppl, as well as it's my way of sharing God's love to ppl and showing my love to him.

People suggest reading the word, praying, going to church, etc. However if I were to do these things, it wouldn't be sincere, and that to me is just as rude and disrespectful to God as sinning against him.

I spent time in prayer and waited for signs of what I thought he called me to. Then when I though I knew what he'd called me to, I put forth all of my time, efforts, energy, and concentration.

I thought God was supposed to reward those who were faithful for him, loyal to him, and those who endure pain, suffering, rejection, etc. etc. for him....all of which I've done. I don't just mean in the afterlife in heaven, I mean while here on earth too.

However despite doing all of this, my life ended up in shambles. I was uprooted from everything and everyone I love.

I KNOW the purposes of sanctification and persecution and refinement are and what they serve; that's what 90% of my walk with God has been.

I don't need to be told life is unfair I already know this from past experience in my own life.

Why should I trust God? I prayed to him for things to improve, for providing opportunities for things to get better; I used the resources and opportunities he made available to me while trying to trust him that things would get better and trying to believe he'd provide for me.

Despite doing that, things still haven't improved. Whenever things are on the verge of getting better, something without fail happens to wreck it.

I know that waiting builds character, but I'm sick to death of waiting.
I'm exhausted in every aspect of the word.....emotionally, spiritually, physically. I hate my life and stay alive for the sake of others. If it weren't for them, I'd already be dead. Quite frankly I don't even think people would care if I were gone, because most of my 'friends' treat me like I don't exist, so that tells me they don't care.

They say they do but actions speak louder than words. I don't care if it's intentional or not, it still hurt.
When it ceases to be your time, your effort, your good works, and your feelings, then you'll be ready to learn. Do you really want what YOU deserve? I doubt it. You'd been in hell if you got it. No, life isn't just not fair, it's intentionally designed to be not fair. Life is designed to give you far better than you deserve. It's designed to turn sinners into saints. It's designed to take whiners, and make them into worshippers. It's about forgetting what the individual has done, and seeing what God has done, and continues to do. 27 years old and tired of waiting? WOW. At least you're honest. I'll give you that. I can only wish I was at the point where I had only waited until I was 27. LOL My body wouldn't be broken down as much. Now that you've had a good cry, pick up your bible and read about Joseph, and how falsely accused, he spent ten years in prison for not sinning against the Lord. Read about how God had something more important than Joseph's personal comfort to consider. If the worst thing to happen to you today was to get disrespected, thank God. You didn't get what you deserved. And then read Ps 119. And after you are done, let me know, and I will pray for you.
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I've sacrificed tons for God. I've been rejected by my own family for following him; it caused a rift in the relationship I had with my dad. All of the things I've done for God were out of love and obedience and loyalty for him. When I help others it's because I believe it's the right thing to do....and because I enjoy helping other ppl, as well as it's my way of sharing God's love to ppl and showing my love to him.

I thought God was supposed to reward those who were faithful for him, loyal to him, and those who endure pain, suffering, rejection, etc. etc. for him....all of which I've done. I don't just mean in the afterlife in heaven, I mean while here on earth too.

Why should I trust God? I prayed to him for things to improve, for providing opportunities for things to get better; I used the resources and opportunities he made available to me while trying to trust him that things would get better and trying to believe he'd provide for me.
It is good to suffer for God! I am Glad to call you my Spiritual Sister! Please understand that we should Love God just because He blesses us. We should Glorify God because He will give us a reward, we should Glorify God for who He is! Life is about God, don't you know that "all things were created by him for him"?

"The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure.

They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness." Psalm 111:7-8 KJV


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The question you should ask is "Why should I not trust God?"
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Why should I trust God?

Dear Musician4Jesus. God is Love, and God can be trusted wholeheartedly. I say this humbly and with love, to trust God we must know what God has for us, we must know what we ask God`s help for, and then we must follow God nearly. More often than not, it takes time, we talk things over with God, we tell Him why we need what we ask for, and we keep thanking God all the time. ( Not because God wants our thanks first, but because we show God how much we would like what we pray for, and let God see that we truly need His Help and Love.) God is our Heavenly Father, and God loves giving us what we ask for. Before you decide Not to trust God, show God what you really would love Him to give you, and then FOLLOW God. God has given us free will, we can say Yes, or No, to God, but if there are others too, it all takes time to be accomplished. God does not force us in any way. God can do all things, but often it takes time and our prayers will also help. If I may give some loving advice: ask God`s Forgiveness and help Him with your prayers. Jesus told us that with God all things are possible. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.
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Trusting God isn't the easy thing to do. That's why there aren't as many practicing Christians these days. Satan has built a curtian of agreement making it difficult to see that God's ways are better. Pslam 91 speaks of the Lord's trust carrying us in eagle's wings as a fortress.

Maybe you should turn your eyes to the Book of Job. His tale is all about trusting God. He loses his family, friends, and possesions and doesn't seem to understand why. But in the end God came through for him as He always does for His flock.

Leaning on our own understanding is not enough sometimes. We have to trust the maker of the cosmos; the Lord Jesus Christ. If you can't trust Christ, who can you rely on?
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I'm getting sick and tired of Christians like you. You don't even read and think about what's being told you, and you certainly aren't trying to look at it from my perspective.
You make a slew of these accusations and assumptions. That because I have the audacity to acknowledge my problems and acknowledge I need help, this makes me a baby and immature?!

Then you make this accusation that the reason I do good deeds and help people is to glorify myself?! You don't know me at all. Sure I'm the one who did good deeds, but I didn't do them to gloat or be in the limelight. I did so out of LOVE; love for God, and love and caring for people, and wanting to help them because it was the right thing to do. I certainly didn't do so to be a braggart and/or to boast; I don't like to draw attention to myself, it makes me feel awkward.

I'm already going through a difficult enough time as is, you tearing into me and treating me like dung because I acknowledge my pain, sorrow, problems, etc. isn't helping it's just exacerbating things for me. I don't need you to judge me; you're not God, it's not your job. Even if that's not what you're doing, that's exactly how you're coming off to me.



This is exactly one of the reasons that I haven't told God what I really wanted. Because if I do, then I'm being selfish and it's rude and disrespectful to him to want a future for my life, one to look forward to. However according to many Christians, desiring such things is taboo?! God is the one who gave me the abilities and talents I have, he is the one who placed the desires in my heart. I think that God is going to call you to something that plays to your strengths, the talents and abilities he gave you. You'll better serve him that way and be more enthusiastic about doing so as well.

Yes I have goals and yes I have dreams but why the hell is it so taboo for me to desire they become reality? Because you and countless Christians based on the attitude you gave me, I'm being selfish by doing so, I'm not seeking God's will by doing so.

I've read the book of Job and I know what the whole point of the book is. The point is that life isn't fair and hardships, pain, adversity, etc. are unavoidable, such is life. The reason God allowed the bad stuff to occur to job was a test of his faith, to see if he would love God in both the good and bad times. See here is the thing though. God blessed Job afterwards.

I've been thru so many difficult seasons for God, and the light at the end of the tunnel has yet to come; I've yet to get out of this rut that is my life and have something good occur, and be prospered and have it last. Even the best years and happiest years of my life (so far) I was still in a rut with my life. It's very difficult to believe that things will improve and become good for me, when this has yet to manifest itself and become a reality in my life.


I have followed God; not because it's just something I grew up with, so I believed it because it's what I was taught, and was just a part of my life growing up; I didn't inherit my faith. That is to say I didn't just mindlessly follow it cause it's what I was taught, but didn't really try to understand why I believed what I did ....such is not the case with my faith.
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