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Lets inaugurate page 2 of this thread with the Symphony of Science.

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how about another one instead of genetic information discussions how about that the dating methods in evolution are not accurate enough for public school.
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Hypothetically anything can happen. But Mutations by the very definition "Mutant" are bad things. Thats how it got it's name, you know!
From the Mirriam-Webster online dictionary
mu·tat·ed mu·tat·ing
Definition of MUTATE

intransitive verb
: to undergo mutation

transitive verb
: to cause to undergo mutation

mu·ta·tive \ˈmyü-ˌtā-tiv, -tə-tiv\ adjective
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.example-sentences ol.collapsed-list li.hidden { display: none; }li.more-sent-link { background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent; }#content .definition div.d li.more-sent-link a.more-link, #content .definition div.d li.more-sent-link a.hide-link { color: rgb(113, 114, 116); font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; }#content .definition div.d li.more-sent-link a.more-link:hover .text, #content .definition div.d li.more-sent-link a.hide-link:hover .text { text-decoration: underline; }.example-sentences ol.expanded-list a.more-link, .example-sentences ol.collapsed-list a.hide-link { display: none; }#content .definition div.d li.more-sent-link span.icon { padding-right: 2px; }Examples of MUTATE

  1. a disease that mutates genes in humans
  2. a group of mutated genes
  3. Over time, her feelings mutated from hatred into love.
  4. opera singers mutating into pop stars

Origin of MUTATE

Latin mutatus, past participle of mutareFirst Known Use: 1818


Related to MUTATE

Synonyms: fluctuate, change, shift, snap, vary
Antonyms: plateau, stabilize

mu·tant

adj \ˈmyü-tənt\
Definition of MUTANT

: of, relating to, or produced by mutation

mutant noun
Origin of MUTANT

Latin mutant-, mutans, present participle of mutareFirst Known Use: 1903


So the words mutate and mutant come from the Latin root "mutans," which means "change." Any change -- any change at all good, bad, or indifferent -- in the genetic code (other than halving the chromosomes during meiosis, and he recombining of them during fertilization -- which is not only unavoidable in sexual reproduction, but the very definition of it) is a mutation, not just the ones with a deleterious effect. Even a genetic change that has absolutely no effect is a mutation. There are far, far more of these than there are mutations that have visible effects, good, bad, and neutral, combined, mainly because the sections of a chromosome that contain a lot of "junk genes" (genes that appear not to code for anything) are also the weakest, and the most susceptible to the kinds of things that knock out, insert, or re-arrange short sequences of nucleotides, often dangling off the end of the end of the chromosome.
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Originally Posted by OllieFranz View Post
From the Mirriam-Webster online dictionary
mu·tat·ed mu·tat·ing
Definition of MUTATE

intransitive verb
: to undergo mutation

transitive verb
: to cause to undergo mutation

mu·ta·tive \ˈmyü-ˌtā-tiv, -tə-tiv\ adjective
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.example-sentences ol.collapsed-list li.hidden { display: none; }li.more-sent-link { background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent; }#content .definition div.d li.more-sent-link a.more-link, #content .definition div.d li.more-sent-link a.hide-link { color: rgb(113, 114, 116); font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; }#content .definition div.d li.more-sent-link a.more-link:hover .text, #content .definition div.d li.more-sent-link a.hide-link:hover .text { text-decoration: underline; }.example-sentences ol.expanded-list a.more-link, .example-sentences ol.collapsed-list a.hide-link { display: none; }#content .definition div.d li.more-sent-link span.icon { padding-right: 2px; }Examples of MUTATE

  1. a disease that mutates genes in humans
  2. a group of mutated genes
  3. Over time, her feelings mutated from hatred into love.
  4. opera singers mutating into pop stars

Origin of MUTATE

Latin mutatus, past participle of mutareFirst Known Use: 1818


Related to MUTATE

Synonyms: fluctuate, change, shift, snap, vary
Antonyms: plateau, stabilize

mu·tant

adj \ˈmyü-tənt\
Definition of MUTANT

: of, relating to, or produced by mutation

mutant noun
Origin of MUTANT

Latin mutant-, mutans, present participle of mutareFirst Known Use: 1903


So the words mutate and mutant come from the Latin root "mutans," which means "change." Any change -- any change at all good, bad, or indifferent -- in the genetic code (other than halving the chromosomes during meiosis, and he recombining of them during fertilization -- which is not only unavoidable in sexual reproduction, but the very definition of it) is a mutation, not just the ones with a deleterious effect. Even a genetic change that has absolutely no effect is a mutation. There are far, far more of these than there are mutations that have visible effects, good, bad, and neutral, combined, mainly because the sections of a chromosome that contain a lot of "junk genes" (genes that appear not to code for anything) are also the weakest, and the most susceptible to the kinds of things that knock out, insert, or re-arrange short sequences of nucleotides, often dangling off the end of the end of the chromosome.
radiation causes mutations too but they are not beneficial.
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radiation causes mutations too but they are not beneficial.
Prove it.
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Prove it.
mutation = mutilation
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mutation = mutilation
No, it doesn't. A mutation is a substitution, insertion or deletion of nucleotides from a chromosome. A mutilation is the physical damage of flesh. That is a patently absurd comment. I might as well say that baking a cake is shattering.
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Originally Posted by laconicstudent View Post
I might as well say that baking a cake is shattering.
or you can say mutation = medication

either one
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or you can say mutation = medication

either one
I wouldn't say either, because neither make the slightest sense.
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