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Cavemen and Dinosaurs

Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place but here it goes.

Well I can't seem to find an answer to this. I understand that Dinosaurs existed with adam and eve and there were some in noahs ark. After that some Dinosaurs became extinct, ok I get that. But what about cavemen? What about the paintings of horses and buffalo I am learning about in school? I was thinking that maybe Noahs descendants were forced to live in caves because of the destruction and what not but how do you explain there not being and words written on walls only images?
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Originally Posted by Lindros09 View Post
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place but here it goes.

Well I can't seem to find an answer to this. I understand that Dinosaurs existed with adam and eve and there were some in noahs ark. After that some Dinosaurs became extinct, ok I get that. But what about cavemen? What about the paintings of horses and buffalo I am learning about in school? I was thinking that maybe Noahs descendants were forced to live in caves because of the destruction and what not but how do you explain there not being and words written on walls only images?
Um, that is because humans and dinosaurs did not coexist. Millions of years before the origin of hominids, a meteorite crashed into the Yucatan peninsula, and the resulting ice age wiped out those species.





Dinosaurs did most definitely not exist with Adam and Eve and were assuredly not on the ark.
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Look I believe that they did coexist for many reasons but that is not my question.
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The issue of "cavemen" becomes somewhat moot if one rejects what the scientific evidence suggests vis-a-vis natural history doesn't it?

The cave paintings in places like Lascaux predate Ussher's dating of the Flood by nearly 15,000 years, which even if the biblical Flood story were historical and did take place when Ussher and Young Earth Creationists think it did, the paleolithic cave paintings we find are far too old to have been painted by Noah or his descendants; unless one pushes the Flood back to paleolithic times.

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Originally Posted by Lindros09 View Post
Look I believe that they did coexist for many reasons but that is not my question.
Okay, the answer to your question is that said cave paintings pre-dates the origin of the first non-pictographic language by several thousand years. The cave paintings were done by people who lived tens of thousands of years before Noah.
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"Caveman" is not a scientific word, and it may not correspond to anything in reality. That we find paintings or artifacts in caves is not evidence that we generally lived in caves.
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Originally Posted by laconicstudent View Post
Dinosaurs did most definitely not exist with Adam and Eve...
If Gen. 3:14 is literal and indicates the immediate loss of legs of every serpent, then dinosaurs could have coexisted with Adam and Eve. Ancient snakes that had legs lived around 90 mya. The fall of man could have happened in the Late Cretaceous period and the Flood could have happened in the Paleogene period, in which we see the emergence of mammals and birds.
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If Gen. 3:14 is literal and indicates the immediate loss of legs of every serpent, then dinosaurs could have coexisted with Adam and Eve. Ancient snakes that had legs lived around 90 mya. The fall of man could have happened in the Late Cretaceous period and the Flood could have happened in the Paleogene period, in which we see the emergence of mammals and birds.
## Which leaves tens of millions of years between Adam & Abraham - which makes a complete train-wreck of the dating in Genesis. Which is a nice example of preserving the truth of the text at one point, only at the cost of sacrificing its truth at another.

And for what ? For making sure the dinos entered the ark. But why could they not have died out by then ? That would not require any change in the dating given in Genesis. Or is it for them to survive so that they can be mentioned in Job ?
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Originally Posted by Lindros09 View Post
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place but here it goes.

Well I can't seem to find an answer to this. I understand that Dinosaurs existed with adam and eve and there were some in noahs ark....
Welcome to school.
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Originally Posted by Hairy Tic View Post
And for what ? For making sure the dinos entered the ark. But why could they not have died out by then ? That would not require any change in the dating given in Genesis. Or is it for them to survive so that they can be mentioned in Job ?
I said that the Flood would have happened in the Paleogene period. That doesn't leave room for dinosaurs boarding the Ark. In fact, I believe the Flood happened sometime after the mass extinction event.

And no, the animals described in Job are not dinosaurs. Surely they could not have lived that long.
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