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Salvation Army and Baptism

I have a quick question, why dont the salvation army baptize christians?
Mark 16:16 (King James Version)


16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Not only is this practice contrary to scripture but also to even the most basic understanding of orthodoxy (right worship/practice) in christian history, some thoughts?
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Old 8th January 2011, 01:58 PM
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I was going to start a thread asking if Salvationists baptise people nowadays, but since this thread was already here I will read along instead. Thanks

PS: I don't want any negativity attached to my question. All I want to know is "Does the Salvation Army baptise its members?"
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Originally Posted by lawndartboy View Post
I have a quick question, why dont the salvation army baptize christians?
Mark 16:16 (King James Version)


16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Not only is this practice contrary to scripture but also to even the most basic understanding of orthodoxy (right worship/practice) in christian history, some thoughts?
sAalvationists belive that sacramentals became uneccesary the moment jesus died on the cross.

The most a sacrament can be is a symbol
Meaningful symbols can very easily become meaningless rituals
Sacraments can't change the heart and life of a person - that can only happen through faith in Jesus Christ
Jesus did not intend to create any sacramental ceremonies and there is little or nothing in the Bible to support sacraments
Sacraments have proved divisive in Christian history
Sacraments are an element of Christianity that may obstruct the conversion of those who have abandoned more formal churches

The Army has its own ceremony for becoming a member of the church (a Soldier) - the equivalent of baptism or confirmation - but the army ceremony does not involve water and is not sacramental.
The Army does not ban Salvationists from getting baptised in another church if they wish to do so.
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Is baptism discouraged?
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Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
Is baptism discouraged?
No.

This is why I like the Salvation Army. I have felt uncomfortable at other churches, with silly rituals and hang ups over different things.
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Do you have any information on what proportion of Salvationists are baptised?
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silly rituals
Some people hold the rituals of worship dear and don't think they are silly at all.
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Originally Posted by HisHomeMaker View Post
Some people hold the rituals of worship dear and don't think they are silly at all.
Silly was probally not the right word to have used.

I just don't see them as a neccesary part of my walk with Christ in the Christian Faith.
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Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
Do you have any information on what proportion of Salvationists are baptised?
No I do not, sorry.

However the Salvation Army has two forms of church membership.

Salvationists wear uniform and adhere to the doctrines of the Salvation Army and also abstain from tobacco and Alchohol.

Adherent members do not wear uniform and are permited to Smoke and consume alchohol.

It might be a small number of Salvationists that are baptised. Where as many adherents are often baptized having been members of other churches.
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Originally Posted by steve78 View Post
Silly was probally not the right word to have used.

I just don't see them as a neccesary part of my walk with Christ in the Christian Faith.
Thank you.

I am Anglican, but I have a lot of respect and admiration for the Salvation Army in my community. I may try attending some services to learn more. I will be volunteering for a service project with them.
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