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Question Working at a casino

This is something that's really been on my mind since earlier this year when we moved and I was hired by a casino as a database marketing analyst. I've heard a lot of different viewpoints, primarily from Christians, and am having trouble sorting through it all.

The environment is friendly and pretty laid back. Benefits are alright. The work is interesting. I personally enjoy playing Blackjack for fun, but have never played at a casino. I spent $5 once in Vegas just for the experience, but it was pretty boring. Overall, the place seems clean and "fair" from a functional perspective.

I do have a pretty good understanding of the Bible and have been following a 365-day program to finally read the entire thing. I've learned a lot so far, even more than I thought I'd learn. I realize Jesus said to love God above all and your neighbor as yourself. I've seen others post random Bible passages to fit their agendas, but was hoping to gain more insight into the prevailing view that working at a casino is wrong.

Through considerable self-examination over the past few years, I've really come to realize that my calling is to share the Gospel and help provide information to combat common misconceptions about the Bible. I've even worked off and on on a website at BibleGrow.org. It's basic right now, but I'd love to add 365-day reading programs, Q&A, Bible history, etc, all for those who do not currently believe and/or are confused about what the Bible really says. Life in general is pretty pointless without a goal, and I'd truly love to share the Bible and what it means (no denominations, please) with the world in a non-threatening and non-confusing way. That's really all that matters in life.

Back to the point of my post, I'd appreciate hearing some genuine input on casino work. How is it different from bartending or even the insurance industry? So far, the only thing I can come up with is that you're paying for entertainment vs a particular product. There is the issue of gambling compulsively which I really do hate, but there's always the view that alcohol/caffeine is also addictive. In general, too much of anything worldly is a bad thing. You know, everything in moderation.

Thoughts? I even ran this by three separate pastors and haven't really received a straight answer...which leads me to believe I'm either missing something obvious or one doesn't exist...in other words, it's a gray area. :-/ I realize I can Google, but I'd rather hear in depth from the masses of real people who may frequent this board.

My conscience bothers me about this issue, but the consciences of other Christians I've spoken to have not always appeared to.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Mateo1041 View Post
This is something that's really been on my mind since earlier this year when we moved and I was hired by a casino as a database marketing analyst. I've heard a lot of different viewpoints, primarily from Christians, and am having trouble sorting through it all.

The environment is friendly and pretty laid back. Benefits are alright. The work is interesting. I personally enjoy playing Blackjack for fun, but have never played at a casino. I spent $5 once in Vegas just for the experience, but it was pretty boring. Overall, the place seems clean and "fair" from a functional perspective.

I do have a pretty good understanding of the Bible and have been following a 365-day program to finally read the entire thing. I've learned a lot so far, even more than I thought I'd learn. I realize Jesus said to love God above all and your neighbor as yourself. I've seen others post random Bible passages to fit their agendas, but was hoping to gain more insight into the prevailing view that working at a casino is wrong.

Through considerable self-examination over the past few years, I've really come to realize that my calling is to share the Gospel and help provide information to combat common misconceptions about the Bible. I've even worked off and on on a website at BibleGrow.org. It's basic right now, but I'd love to add 365-day reading programs, Q&A, Bible history, etc, all for those who do not currently believe and/or are confused about what the Bible really says. Life in general is pretty pointless without a goal, and I'd truly love to share the Bible and what it means (no denominations, please) with the world in a non-threatening and non-confusing way. That's really all that matters in life.

Back to the point of my post, I'd appreciate hearing some genuine input on casino work. How is it different from bartending or even the insurance industry? So far, the only thing I can come up with is that you're paying for entertainment vs a particular product. There is the issue of gambling compulsively which I really do hate, but there's always the view that alcohol/caffeine is also addictive. In general, too much of anything worldly is a bad thing. You know, everything in moderation.

Thoughts? I even ran this by three separate pastors and haven't really received a straight answer...which leads me to believe I'm either missing something obvious or one doesn't exist...in other words, it's a gray area. :-/ I realize I can Google, but I'd rather hear in depth from the masses of real people who may frequent this board.

My conscience bothers me about this issue, but the consciences of other Christians I've spoken to have not always appeared to.

Thanks.
From the people I know that have worked for Casino's, you'll be fine. Casino's demand honest employees. Stay on the path of the Christian life and be a good example to your bosses and co-workers.

And learn how to throw the dice.
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Originally Posted by Mateo1041 View Post
My conscience bothers me about this issue...

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looks like you answered your own question
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Originally Posted by Mateo1041 View Post
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Back to the point of my post, I'd appreciate hearing some genuine input on casino work. How is it different from bartending or even the insurance industry? So far, the only thing I can come up with is that you're paying for entertainment vs a particular product. There is the issue of gambling compulsively which I really do hate, but there's always the view that alcohol/caffeine is also addictive. In general, too much of anything worldly is a bad thing. You know, everything in moderation.

Thoughts? I even ran this by three separate pastors and haven't really received a straight answer...which leads me to believe I'm either missing something obvious or one doesn't exist...in other words, it's a gray area. :-/ I realize I can Google, but I'd rather hear in depth from the masses of real people who may frequent this board.

My conscience bothers me about this issue, but the consciences of other Christians I've spoken to have not always appeared to.

Thanks.
Well the casino industry is more honest thatn a lot of the insurance industry. I wroked for a company that made rating software. Long ago, when PCs were new, a 5 meg hard drive was big (yes meg, not gig) and a PC was $5000. In the course of that I saw just what the commision structure for agents was.

You will find agents try to sell you whole life policies, they go on and on about how it is so much better for you. But you will never get told that the commission for the first year of a whole life policy is often over 100%! Where term life has a commission of 1-3 percent.

Insurance agents often tell people what is best based on waht is best for the agents bottom line, not what actually serves the customer. I've found casino emmployees to be more honest. They will actually tell you which games have teh best percentages for the house. But more important casino employees are expected to work for the house and do not have the chance to mislead people nearly as much.



Bottom line, unless you suspect the casino is rigging games or engaging in unethical practices (like bargin room rates where only one or 2 are available, same kind of thnig any business can do). I see no problem with working in a casino.

Wait, for you I see a couple of advantages. An employeer in any business can be corrupt. For you I think casino work will keep yuor eyes open. Yuo will see signs you might miss elsewhere. The second is you desire to witness. I think a casino is a place many others would miss, yuo have unworked territory. I am not a believer, that should be said. But I think if yuo witness with a light and caring hand you can really help some people even from the way I see things and you will convert some who are willing.
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So, what if a casino employee is honest? I don't see the point at all.
A brothel employee can be honest. A drug dealer can honest and sell to his clients good cocaine not mixed with sugar powder or other worthless stuff. A shop assistant in a shop that sells occult books and amulets can be honest.
As for witnessing... To witness to male prostitutes should I become a prostitute myself, a pimp or a client?
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Originally Posted by daveth View Post
Having a job is better than being an unemployed sloth.
It's better to sell pornography than to be on wellfare.
It's better to advertise cigarettes than being dependent on your parents.
It's better to make landmines than to be an unemployed sloth
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I don't necessarily agree with that. Sometimes we are where we are for a reason.
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Originally Posted by ulu View Post
looks like you answered your own question
Correct. And that's why I'm posting to ensure it really is my conscience and not some other societal influence. The casino industry has had a rough past (gangsters, organized crime, etc), but is pretty honest now in days (at least where I work).
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Originally Posted by keith99 View Post
The second is you desire to witness. I think a casino is a place many others would miss, yuo have unworked territory.
That's something else I neglected to mention. Unfortunately, I think too many denominations now in days are "holier than thou" or judgmental and do not truly witness and work alongside those who may struggle.
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Originally Posted by keith99 View Post
You will find agents try to sell you whole life policies, they go on and on about how it is so much better for you. But you will never get told that the commission for the first year of a whole life policy is often over 100%! Where term life has a commission of 1-3 percent.

Insurance agents often tell people what is best based on waht is best for the agents bottom line, not what actually serves the customer.
Nonsense. Life insurance policies pay the agent 50-60% of the first year premium. Besides, whole life is better, if you can afford it. Only about 5% of term policies pay a death benefit, while 100% of whole life policies pay a death benefit.
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