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Old 23rd November 2010, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LifeToTheFullest! View Post
Yes. It's a form of 'medicine' known as education, the more you have, the less superstitious.
Depends on the education...
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Originally Posted by LifeToTheFullest! View Post
Yes. It's a form of 'medicine' known as education, the more you have, the less superstitious.
That hasn't worked very well, as spirituality seems to grow with age. Would you support a government funded 'deprogramming' program to rid us of the (intellectual) scourge of Christianity and other similiar beliefs?
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Man learns by two methods; the scientific method, and revelation. Doesn't the believer, who also accepts much of science-based knowledge (I certainly do, with the exception of evolution), have a larger, and more balanced body of knowledge than does the unbeliever? Or does science believe that knowledge gained through revelation leads to an unbalanced mind?
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Old 23rd November 2010, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by oldwiseguy View Post
Man learns by two methods; the scientific method, and revelation. Doesn't the believer, who also accepts much of science-based knowledge (I certainly do, with the exception of evolution), have a larger, and more balanced body of knowledge than does the unbeliever? Or does science believe that knowledge gained through revelation leads to an unbalanced mind?
We learn in many more ways than just those two. We learn through personal experience, from emulating, from mistakes, from stories, from cultural and social pressure, et cetera. And as interesting as revelation sounds, I've never had that despite my earnest wishes. So, I can't say I've learned much that way.

Now, having said all that, I think the best kind of education is one that can be verified and/or demonstrated but that's just my preference.
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@ OWG:

Not if the knowledge gained through 'revelation' is demonstrably false or fictitious, as much of the bible is. For example, a man who is educated in science yet accepts the Noachian Flood as fact via revelation in the Bible is certainly less knowledgeable than a man of equal scientific education who accepts the vast evidence contradicting the Noachian flood.
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@ OWG:

Not if the knowledge gained through 'revelation' is demonstrably false or fictitious, as much of the bible is. For example, a man who is educated in science yet accepts the Noachian Flood as fact via revelation in the Bible is certainly less knowledgeable than a man of equal scientific education who accepts the vast evidence contradicting the Noachian flood.
This is a good point I didn't think about. Regardless of the form of learning, if the information you receive can be shown to be wrong, then why believe it?
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Originally Posted by oldwiseguy View Post
That hasn't worked very well, as spirituality seems to grow with age. Would you support a government funded 'deprogramming' program to rid us of the (intellectual) scourge of Christianity and other similiar beliefs?
Actually, non-belief is the fastest growing 'belief' in America. As for a government funded 'deprogramming,' I'm willing to try. We've already seen what theocracy does to humankind. It was called the Dark Ages in Europe, and is currently happening in the Arab world. Theocracies love to suppress knowledge and kill those who promote it.
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Originally Posted by oldwiseguy View Post
Man learns by two methods; the scientific method, and revelation. Doesn't the believer, who also accepts much of science-based knowledge (I certainly do, with the exception of evolution), have a larger, and more balanced body of knowledge than does the unbeliever? Or does science believe that knowledge gained through revelation leads to an unbalanced mind?
I've always wondered why god always chose the ignorant, meek, humble and illiterate to reveal his precepts to.
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I've always wondered why god always chose the ignorant, meek, humble and illiterate to reveal his precepts to.
Because we'll accept them.
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Originally Posted by oldwiseguy View Post
That hasn't worked very well, as spirituality seems to grow with age. Would you support a government funded 'deprogramming' program to rid us of the (intellectual) scourge of Christianity and other similiar beliefs?
I like where you're going with this.

Perhaps they could call this program, The Final Solution?

All scientists would need would be a few Christians to be medically examined for a gene somewhere in our...

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The God gene hypothesis proposes that human beings inherit a set of genes that predisposes them towards spiritual or mystic experiences. The idea has been postulated by geneticist Dean Hamer, the director of the Gene Structure and Regulation Unit at the U.S. National Cancer Institute, who has written a book on the subject titled, The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes.
Nevermind, they're already on our trail --
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