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Where was Jesus while He was dead for three days?

Ive been wondering where or what Jesus did when He was dead for three days. Where was His Spirit? Does the bible truly tell us?
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Originally Posted by Yeisu View Post
Ive been wondering where or what Jesus did when He was dead for three days. Where was His Spirit? Does the bible truly tell us?
It's assumed He went down to the grave, where He lead those who were waiting in Abraham's bosom for the Messiah, and also down to the torment side it would seem according to 1 Peter 3:19-
19 After being made alive,[d] he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits—

Ephesians 4:8-10
8 This is why it[a] says: “When he ascended on high,
he took many captives
and gave gifts to his people.”[b]
9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)
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You're touching on a subject that isn't discussed much but we do know the answers. Some commonly refer to it as, "The Second Day".

On the second day, Christ descended into hell.

Peter, in his first sermon, mentions the suffering of Christ’ soul in hell:
Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. (Acts 2:27, KJV)
Jesus’ soul was in hell, but not left there. Why did Jesus go to hell for us? He went there because the punishment of sin is for the soul to be cast into hell. Since Christ suffered the penalties and punishment for our sins, it stands to reason that He would have to suffer in hell, and He did.
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Originally Posted by Maverick1972 View Post
....Jesus’ soul was in hell..
Absolute deceptive comment!!!

In reference to 1 Peter 3:18-20, first of all, notice how Christ preached to those spirits in prison. He did it by the Spirit, and that word is capitalized in your Bible. It actually refers to the Holy Spirit. So whatever Christ did in preaching during this period of time, He did it through or by the Holy Spirit.

With that in view, let's ask this: When was the preaching done? The answer is plainly given in verse 20, "When once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing." So the preaching was actually done while the ark was being built-- during the preaching of Noah to that antediluvian world.

Now, one more question: To whom was the preaching done? The text says here "to the spirits in prison." Throughout the Bible we find this terminology used in describing those who are bound in the prison house of sin. David prayed "Bring my soul out of prison." Psalm 142:7. Paul spoke of his experience in these words, "bringing me into captivity to the law of sin." Romans 7:23.

What Peter is telling us here is simply that Christ through the Holy Spirit was present while Noah preached; Christ was there through the Holy Spirit to speak conviction to their hearts and appeal to them to come into the ark. There is absolutely nothing here which indicates that Jesus departed from the body during the time He was dead to go to any subterranean place to minister to wicked spirits. The three questions are clearly answered in the text itself, that He preached by the Holy Spirit, He did it while the ark was preparing, and He did it to the spirits in prison or to those individuals whose sinful lives were bound in the prison house of sin.

BESIDES, the Scripture is clear. Read Luke 23:46

Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost

WHERE was the Heavenly Father? In Heaven of course. Surely you don't claim Father God is in hell too?

The Scriptures indicate that Christ by the Holy Spirit was preaching through Noah to the spirits of those sin-bound people in Noahs day.

The Spirit preached through Noah just as the HS has preached to every generation to whom God sent his human messengers. And it is Christ through the Spirit who done this. Noah was a 'preacher of righteousness"(2Peter 2:5) Christ's humanity truly DIED and Jesus slept in the grave in the death of sleep.

The preaching was done "by the Spirit" (verse 18) in Noah's day to people who were then living (verses 19, 20). The "spirits in prison" refers to people whose lives were in bondage to Satan. (See Psalm 142:7; Isaiah 42:6, 7; 61:1; and Luke 4:18.)

"All that are in the graves shall hear His voice, and shall come forth." John 5:28, 29. "David . . . is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us unto this day." "For David is not ascended into the heavens." Acts 2:29, 34. "If I wait, the grave is mine house." Job 17:13.

People do not go either to heaven or "hell" at death. They go to their graves to await the resurrection day.

Jesus was asleep in the grave until He was resurrected!
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Originally Posted by MinisterTony View Post
Absolute deceptive comment!!!

In reference to 1 Peter 3:18-20, first of all, notice how Christ preached to those spirits in prison. He did it by the Spirit, and that word is capitalized in your Bible. It actually refers to the Holy Spirit. So whatever Christ did in preaching during this period of time, He did it through or by the Holy Spirit.

With that in view, let's ask this: When was the preaching done? The answer is plainly given in verse 20, "When once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing." So the preaching was actually done while the ark was being built-- during the preaching of Noah to that antediluvian world.

Now, one more question: To whom was the preaching done? The text says here "to the spirits in prison." Throughout the Bible we find this terminology used in describing those who are bound in the prison house of sin. David prayed "Bring my soul out of prison." Psalm 142:7. Paul spoke of his experience in these words, "bringing me into captivity to the law of sin." Romans 7:23.

What Peter is telling us here is simply that Christ through the Holy Spirit was present while Noah preached; Christ was there through the Holy Spirit to speak conviction to their hearts and appeal to them to come into the ark. There is absolutely nothing here which indicates that Jesus departed from the body during the time He was dead to go to any subterranean place to minister to wicked spirits. The three questions are clearly answered in the text itself, that He preached by the Holy Spirit, He did it while the ark was preparing, and He did it to the spirits in prison or to those individuals whose sinful lives were bound in the prison house of sin.

BESIDES, the Scripture is clear. Read Luke 23:46

Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost

WHERE was the Heavenly Father? In Heaven of course. Surely you don't claim Father God is in hell too?

The Scriptures indicate that Christ by the Holy Spirit was preaching through Noah to the spirits of those sin-bound people in Noahs day.

The Spirit preached through Noah just as the HS has preached to every generation to whom God sent his human messengers. And it is Christ through the Spirit who done this. Noah was a 'preacher of righteousness"(2Peter 2:5) Christ's humanity truly DIED and Jesus slept in the grave in the death of sleep.

The preaching was done "by the Spirit" (verse 18) in Noah's day to people who were then living (verses 19, 20). The "spirits in prison" refers to people whose lives were in bondage to Satan. (See Psalm 142:7; Isaiah 42:6, 7; 61:1; and Luke 4:18.)

"All that are in the graves shall hear His voice, and shall come forth." John 5:28, 29. "David . . . is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us unto this day." "For David is not ascended into the heavens." Acts 2:29, 34. "If I wait, the grave is mine house." Job 17:13.

People do not go either to heaven or "hell" at death. They go to their graves to await the resurrection day.

Jesus was asleep in the grave until He was resurrected!
Very well explained. I have nothing else to add.
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Jesus did go to hades though. The question would be what is hades?
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Jesus did go to hades though. The question would be what is hades?
The Greek word Hades is a word for the grave. Hades is the Greek equivalent of Sheol. Beyond any question, "sheol" or "hades" is a place of death, darkness & silence.

1 Samuel 2:9


He will guard the feet of his faithful servants,
but the wicked will be silenced in the place of darkness.
“It is not by strength that one prevails;

In addition, neither the OT or NT ever speaks of "sheol" or "hades" as a realm of life. Only in the poetical imagery of Isaiah [14:4-11]and the Parable of the rich man and Lazarus are those committed to "sheol" or "hades" said to perform acts of the living. Purely and clearly figurative.

In the NT, 10 times from "Hades," which means "the grave".

An interesting point to note is that Hades cannot be the place of hell-fire since the KJV clearly says that hell itself (Hades) will be cast in to the lake of fire! How can this be so? If Hades (hell in the KJV) is fire how can it be cast into itself? See Rev 20:14. The obvious meaning of the text is that "death and hell [the grave, the place of the dead] were cast into the lake of fire", that is all that is a reminder of sin will be exterminated!

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Very well explained. I have nothing else to add.
Thank you.

And I wonder why would God have a resurrection if people are already alive in heaven.
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The Greek word Hades is a word for the grave. Hades is the Greek equivalent of Sheol. Beyond any question, "sheol" or "hades" is a place of death, darkness & silence.

1 Samuel 2:9


He will guard the feet of his faithful servants,
but the wicked will be silenced in the place of darkness.
“It is not by strength that one prevails;

In addition, neither the OT or NT ever speaks of "sheol" or "hades" as a realm of life. Only in the poetical imagery of Isaiah [14:4-11]and the Parable of the rich man and Lazarus are those committed to "sheol" or "hades" said to perform acts of the living. Purely and clearly figurative.

In the NT, 10 times from "Hades," which means "the grave".

An interesting point to note is that Hades cannot be the place of hell-fire since the KJV clearly says that hell itself (Hades) will be cast in to the lake of fire! How can this be so? If Hades (hell in the KJV) is fire how can it be cast into itself? See Rev 20:14. The obvious meaning of the text is that "death and hell [the grave, the place of the dead] were cast into the lake of fire", that is all that is a reminder of sin will be exterminated!
This would have been my answer but I love how you explain it so I decided to ask the question instead of explaining it myself.
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Originally Posted by MinisterTony View Post
Thank you.

And I wonder why would God have a resurrection if people are already alive in heaven.
Makes no sense at all. So the thief on the cross would have been in heaven 2000+ years now. It would mean he would have already put on immortality but then the bible says the only one who is immortal is God and also that at the second coming this mortal shall put on immortality.
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