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Bonfire Night- should Catholics celebrate it?

Guy Fawkes Night, also known as Bonfire Night, is an annual celebration, primarily in Great Britain, traditionally and usually held on the evening of 5 November. Festivities are centred on the use of fireworks and the lighting of bonfires.
Historically, the celebrations mark the anniversary of the failed Gunpowder Plot of 5 November 1605. The date was originally made a public holiday in England by the anti-Catholic Thanksgiving Act of 1605, which was repealed in 1859. Some former British colonies also mark the occasion.
Guy Fawkes Night - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OK, so tomorrow is Bonfire Night, and here in the UK, everyone will go nuts. There will be fireworks, hotdogs and parties all the way through the night. Yet, given the history of this night, is it right for the five million Catholics in the UK to celebrate it? Keeping in mind that it commemorates the finding of a Catholic plot by an anti Catholic King, resulted in the deaths of Catholics and led to harsher laws against Catholics.

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Read the article.

Wow. Never knew this.
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Hmm would this be like the English celebrating the 4th of July?

I'm going to say no, not that I'm saying we're poor sports...just saying we shouldn't celebrate something we lost and wouldn't wanna remember anyway...
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Hmm would this be like the English celebrating the 4th of July?

I'm going to say no, not that I'm saying we're poor sports...just saying we shouldn't celebrate something we lost and wouldn't wanna remember anyway...
Makes sense to me too.
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Guy Fawkes Night - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OK, so tomorrow is Bonfire Night, and here in the UK, everyone will go nuts. There will be fireworks, hotdogs and parties all the way through the night. Yet, given the history of this night, is it right for the five million Catholics in the UK to celebrate it? Keeping in mind that it commemorates the finding of a Catholic plot by an anti Catholic King, resulted in the deaths of Catholics and led to harsher laws against Catholics.

Discuss.
I think it is best to get this one in proportion. The vast majority of those going to watch fireworks this weekend won't give a single thought to why they are doing it; we just want to have fun, and watch several thousands of pounds worth of fireworks explode overhead.

I think it is doing the UK a serious disservice to assume that we retain the kind of anti Roman Catholic feeling that once existed, or that we regard this as a religious celebration of some kind. Why would Anglicans want to do that, do you think? Or Methodists? Or anyone else. This suggestion is rather distasteful, to be honest.

If we think of it at all, it is as a failed terrorist plot; an attempt to murder in cold blood the whole of Parliament and the King. I see no reason to equate terrorist action with any faith, or any creed. If any Roman Catholics want to associate themselves with such behaviour and stay home, then they are welcome to do so. That is a side of Roman Catholicism that I am not familiar with, but perhaps it exists.

Should the rest of us celebrate the failure of such a plot? Certainly.
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Originally Posted by mg0086 View Post
Hmm would this be like the English celebrating the 4th of July?
If I happened to be in the US on July 4, of course I would join in the celebrations, the same as in France on Bastille Day. Why not? I celebrate other people's birthdays, in spite of them not being my own. There is no difference.

I think you have a strange idea of English people, mg.
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If I happened to be in the US on July 4, of course I would join in the celebrations, the same as in France on Bastille Day. Why not? I celebrate other people's birthdays, in spite of them not being my own. There is no difference.

I think you have a strange idea of English people, mg.
I think she meant whether or not this is the English equivalent of the 4th of July.
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Originally Posted by Supreme View Post

OK, so tomorrow is Bonfire Night, and here in the UK, everyone will go nuts. There will be fireworks, hotdogs and parties all the way through the night. Yet, given the history of this night, is it right for the five million Catholics in the UK to celebrate it? Keeping in mind that it commemorates the finding of a Catholic plot by an anti Catholic King, resulted in the deaths of Catholics and led to harsher laws against Catholics.

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What does it mean to the people now? Does it still carry anti-Catholic meanings in the minds of the British?

If it is just a night of celebration then why not celebrate as one.
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What does it mean to the people now? Does it still carry anti-Catholic meanings in the minds of the British?

If it is just a night of celebration then why not celebrate as one.
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I think she meant whether or not this is the English equivalent of the 4th of July.
That could be so. However, I prefer to answer the words as they are written rather than as they are not. It makes for an easier life.
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