| American Politics Forum for political discussion that applies specifically to the United States. |  | | 
2nd November 2010, 10:55 AM
|  | Tarut keeps on dreaming 24 
| | Join Date: 9th September 2007 Location: From Colorado, currently in the UK
Posts: 4,489
Blessings: 143,149 My Mood
Reps: 24,157,313,497,552,492 (power: 24,157,313,497,562) | | Originally Posted by Bro_Sam Then I take it you haven't been paying attention.
I take it someone can't read a comment in context, namely that of claims of "voter fraud" and election "stealing".
I remember the crusade against ACORN in 2008-2009; I remember the claims that dead people had voted in Illinois and elsewhere; I remember the claims that votes in favour of Republican candidates had been "lost" in Minnesota. I remember these boards, right-wing media outlets and the GOP base gnashing their teeth for months and months on end.
If the Dems do something like that this year, let me know.
__________________
"I am an eye. I am a mechanical eye. I, a machine, I am showing you a world, the likes of which only I can see" -Dziga Vertov "But the work of man is only just beginning, and it remains to conquer all the violence entrenched in the recesses of our passion, for no race possesses the monopoly of beauty, of intelligence, of force. And there is place for all at the rendezvous of victory" - Aimé Césaire "God is more interested in justice than ritual; is more attuned to the cry of the oppressed than to the laudatory praises of the pious. What really matters is what is done and not what is simply preached" - Leonardo Boff | 
2nd November 2010, 10:57 AM
| | Newbie 27  | | Join Date: 12th August 2010
Posts: 807
Blessings: 137,557 My Mood
Reps: 13,641,976,177,018,796 (power: 13,641,976,177,021) | | | I hope the GOP wins with the tea party people that way Americans can see the true difference between the two. This election, if the GOP wins, will set the stage for the reelection of the Obama and the Dem Majorities in 2012.
__________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. | 
2nd November 2010, 10:58 AM
|  | Separation of Church and State expert 29 
| | Join Date: 31st July 2006 Location: A Cylon Basestar
Posts: 13,751
Blessings: 1,200,902 My Mood
Reps: 112,165,238,314,908,208 (power: 112,165,238,314,928) | | The repub's will take over finally! And not more of the same change in your pockets.
We'll see.
Let's come back in two to four years and see if you can still say that with a straight face.
Ringo
__________________ "As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion"
-- Treaty of Tripoli, 1797. Presented to Congress and signed by everyone in attendance. "The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretence, infringed.''
-- Madison's original proposal for the Bill of Rights
"I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
I ain't afraid of your Allah
I ain't afraid of your Jesus
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your God"
-- 'I Ain't Afraid' by The Klezmatics To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
| 
2nd November 2010, 11:04 AM
| | Contributor
 | | Join Date: 27th February 2006
Posts: 5,745
Blessings: 18,131
Reps: 1,124,929,859,130,509,824 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Staccato I take it someone can't read a comment in context, namely that of claims of "voter fraud" and election "stealing".
I remember the crusade against ACORN in 2008-2009
"...On Monday, Nevada officials charged Acorn, its regional director and its Las Vegas field director with submitting thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms last year. Larry Lomax, the registrar of voters in Las Vegas, says he believes 48% of Acorn's forms "are clearly fraudulent." On Thursday, prosecutors in Pittsburgh, Pa., also charged seven Acorn employees with filing hundreds of fraudulent voter registrations before last year's general election...." More Acorn Voter Fraud Comes to Light - WSJ.com I remember the claims that dead people had voted in Illinois and elsewhere
"•The U.S. Election Assistance Commission reports that Arkansas, Colorado, Maryland, Massachusetts, Oregon, and Tennessee expunged precisely zero dead voters from their rolls between 2006 and 2008. The same applies to numerous counties in Alabama, Rhode Island, and Virginia. Either these places are experiencing an explosion in immortality, or they are violating federal law.
•Several Iowa and North Carolina counties feature more registered voters than live, voting-age adults. This condition plagues at least a dozen counties each in Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, South Dakota, and Texas. Registered voters equal 104 percent of Baltimore County, Maryland’s voting-adult population; and, according to documents that Adams filed, 113 percent in Lincoln County, West Virginia. Alaska’s and Michigan’s statewide figures are 102 percent.
•As Adams explains, July alone featured vote-fraud investigations, indictments, and convictions in: Atlantic City, New Jersey; Troy, New York; Canton, Mississippi; Brooks County, Georgia; Independence, Louisiana; Dillon County, South Carolina; Adair County, Oklahoma; Muncie, Indiana; and especially Minnesota, “where there have been dozens of felon voting indictments arising out of the closely contested 2008 elections.”
•Duplicate registration plagues metropolitan areas that straddle state lines. In such spots, people may reside in one state and work or study in another. Greater St. Louis, Kansas City, Memphis, and Cincinnati occupy this category, as do New York and Florida — to which tax-burdened New Yorkers often escape.
•Tarrell Campbell pleaded guilty in July for his actions in November 2008. He voted in Illinois (where he was in college), drove across the Mississippi River, and then voted again in St. Louis, his hometown. Campbell claimed that when he voted in Missouri, he had forgotten his vote in Illinois.
•Anne Enochs, a 69-year-old Memphis art teacher, was arrested in July for double voting — by accident, she claimed." DoJ Slumbers As Dead Voters Head to the Polls - HUMAN EVENTS | 
2nd November 2010, 11:16 AM
| | I bring nothing to the table 40  | | Join Date: 28th February 2007 Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 2,270
Blessings: 276,000
Reps: 24,629,806,622,733,364 (power: 24,629,806,622,742) | | Originally Posted by KIYX And it'd be nice if we could keep this thread low on fighting.
I predict that this won't happen. | 
2nd November 2010, 11:38 AM
|  | Newbie

| | Join Date: 8th May 2010 Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,542
Blessings: 32,410 My Mood
Reps: 479,881,400,348,132,160 (power: 479,881,400,348,137) | | I'd imagine that the GOP will take the House and pick a number of seats in the Senate, yet I just can't believe they will get a majority. Still pretty close so anything is possible. Hey, I'm no Nostradamus.
What we will have then is a Congress where everything will be scrutinized and picked apart. There will be political posturing, delays, contention and endless discussion. Bottom line, not a whole bunch will get enacted. Obama-care will either be thrown out entirely or greatly modified. Spending bills will face a very difficult road and the budget will get slashed significantly. There are so many "sacred cow" issues that not all of them will get slain. Enough, however to lower the deficit and slow down this "runaway" train that exists in Washington DC at present. It's not enough to satisfy the conservatives but it's a start. Democrats that survive this day will begin to understand that they need to get away from the "spend our way to prosperity" mentality and will begin to vote more accordingly. They have to because 2012 is only two years away and the campaigning will begin before the last bit of "dangling chad" hits the Registrar counting room floor.
If this does not happen, Obama will most likely get re-elected in 2012 and the GOP could possibly lose the house once again. Therefore, I would think after today we will begin to see a slow trend of jobs being created by the private sector. Nothing dramatic, but it will be significant. This will increase slowly and by the time the November 2012 election gets here, we will be in an economic recovery situation. Obama will take credit for it and he will get re-elected....... wow, darned if we do and darned if we don't. | 
2nd November 2010, 11:42 AM
|  | Beaucoup-Diên-Cai-Dāu 52 
| | Join Date: 5th February 2002 Location: By the shores of Gitchee-Goomee
Posts: 15,352
Blessings: 2,193,149
Reps: 1,919,507,348,067,866,880 (power: 1,919,507,348,067,894) | | Originally Posted by Staccato Nah, I hold out hope that the Democrats aren't as infantile and petulant as some Republicans were following the 2008 election
Which was only surpassed by the snide viciousness and triumphant vindictiveness displayed by the Democrats following the 2008 election. I guess it all evens out.
I remember some conservatives on this and other boards were emotionally and psychically hurting on the morning of November 5th, 2008---and the attitude that the progressives gave them was nothing short of totally uncalled for: a lot of nasty comments about "black crepe" and "you got what you deserved".
I hope that tomorrow morning the liberals, progressives, Democrats, and RINOs have a lot of black crepe of their own to hang.
Last edited by Wolseley; 2nd November 2010 at 11:48 AM.
| 
2nd November 2010, 11:43 AM
|  | the purpose of life is a life of purpose 30  | | Join Date: 7th June 2005 Location: Texas
Posts: 7,224
Blessings: 109,429 My Mood
Reps: 93,912,939,256,878,592 (power: 93,912,939,256,893) | | | I predict the sun will still rise on November 3rd regardless of what happens.
__________________ I am a Christian. I am a liberal. No, these two are not mutually exclusive. Accept it and move on. "A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward." Franklin D. Roosevelt"
Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future"
- Oscar Wilde
"I may disagree with everything you say, but will defend unto death your right to say it."
- Voltaire | 
2nd November 2010, 11:51 AM
|  | Newbie

| | Join Date: 8th May 2010 Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,542
Blessings: 32,410 My Mood
Reps: 479,881,400,348,132,160 (power: 479,881,400,348,137) | | Originally Posted by blueapplepaste I predict the sun will still rise on November 3rd regardless of what happens.
Yep, and we won't have to listen to campaign ads any more for a while. Thank Goodness. I think all of us should use November 3 as a day of calm. No bickering, no name calling and a reduction in political venom. It will all be over. Some will be elated at the results and some disappointed. Will things get better? Well we won't really know for a number of months. Then the whole thing starts all over again. Rest up everyone. | 
2nd November 2010, 11:54 AM
|  | Senior Veteran
 | | Join Date: 11th May 2005
Posts: 9,700
Blessings: 1,036,629
Reps: 1,992,683,950,524,500,224 (power: 1,992,683,950,524,518) | | | IMO this election will show that most Americans are fiscal conservatives.
Reagan Democrats, most Independents and many Republicans could wield real power over the purse if they could cooperate and leave social issues to the side. They would need to create and endorsing body that is bipartisan and supports their goals.
I think they may also be able to agree on reducing the size of the Federal government and extra-constitutional regulatory agencies.
__________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. dir="ltr"> And in the Preaching of Peter you will find the Lord called the Law and the Word. - Clement of Alexandria, Stromata 1:19 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. dir="ltr"> It pleased the Lord for the sake of his righteousness to make his law great and glorious. - Isaiah 42:21 |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |