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Christian artists wanted!

Hello everyone!

My name is Pastor Brian. I have been in ministry for over seven years with lots of involvement in urban ministry, missions throughout the world, preaching, and work with young people all throughout the US.

My wife and I are looking for a new adventure in ministry... Christian art, specifically Tattoos!

Regardless of the way you feel about tattoos I believe that they have the ability to be a great tool in showing people Christ. My body is covered in Christ centered tattoos that show people my love for the Lord. I have had many many opportunities to share the love God has for people because I can't hide it when I take my shirt off!

I'm looking to start up a tattoo shop. I'm passionate about Jesus, passionate about tattoos, and know this could be an excellent outreach for Christian artists of all kinds!

I'd love to find Christian artists of all kinds (but especially tattoo artists that would like to open a shop with me) that are interested in a vision like this... Drawing people to God through art!

Hit me up on here or feel free to email me...

Pastor Brian
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I'm sorry Pastor Brian. I take issue with people marking up or cutting their bodies. I don't think God approves. Despite the fact that I know you would have tons of people to witness to as there has been a marked increase in the number of tattoo parlors, I'm left with Leviticus 19:28.
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everyone knows what we disagree on, lets show them what we agree on instead...

Originally Posted by Jerushabelle View Post
I'm sorry Pastor Brian. I take issue with people marking up or cutting their bodies. I don't think God approves. Despite the fact that I know you would have tons of people to witness to as there has been a marked increase in the number of tattoo parlors, I'm left with Leviticus 19:28.
Jerushabelle,

I want to thank you for your post. I want to preface this post by saying that I AM NOT LOOKING FOR A DEBATE but I am rather looking for Christian brothers and sisters who want to take part in something God is doing. I need friends not foes. Don't major on the minors and remember that Legalism, misappropriation of the biblical text and squabbles between Christians are the very things that I am trying to avoid by creating this ministry. I'm ministering to the people that others have turned away from Christ.

The fundamentals of the faith are what is paramount when discussing any Christian topic and proper biblical hermeneutics are MANDATORY when reciting the scripture. The key priciple being taking scipture in its context. Leviticus 19:28 in its context has to be understood in light of the Israelites association with the Cannanite and Egyptian pagan religous practice of tattooing the name of false gods on the names of hand and other spots which would lend to identification with false gods.

Again, lets show people what we argree on and not what we disagree on. The whole world knows what we disagree on so lets do them one better by showing grace and love which is motivated by our Lord and Savior...

Still looking for comments from Christian artists!!!!

Love in Christ
Brian
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Originally Posted by BC758 View Post
Jerushabelle,

I want to thank you for your post. I want to preface this post by saying that I AM NOT LOOKING FOR A DEBATE but I am rather looking for Christian brothers and sisters who want to take part in something God is doing. I need friends not foes. Don't major on the minors and remember that Legalism, misappropriation of the biblical text and squabbles between Christians are the very things that I am trying to avoid by creating this ministry. I'm ministering to the people that others have turned away from Christ.

The fundamentals of the faith are what is paramount when discussing any Christian topic and proper biblical hermeneutics are MANDATORY when reciting the scripture. The key priciple being taking scipture in its context. Leviticus 19:28 in its context has to be understood in light of the Israelites association with the Cannanite and Egyptian pagan religous practice of tattooing the name of false gods on the names of hand and other spots which would lend to identification with false gods.

Again, lets show people what we argree on and not what we disagree on. The whole world knows what we disagree on so lets do them one better by showing grace and love which is motivated by our Lord and Savior...

Still looking for comments from Christian artists!!!!

Love in Christ
Brian

Brother, I share the love of Christ with you and am always concerned with the witness we place before the world as many here will probably irritatingly confirm. "I'm ministering to people that others have turned away from Christ." I know that your ministry is vital and I praise God for it. Ministering to those you have a burden for does not have to include disobedience to God. God did not preface "Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord." with "In light of your association with the Canaanite and Egyptian pagan practices, do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tatoo marks on yourselves." He prefaced it with "Be holy because I, the Lord your God, am holy." As uncomfortable as I am writing this since you're a Pastor, I am required for my own soul's sake to do so via Ezekiel 3:18-19. Having done so, I will go my way and not cause you further distress. Shalom Brother!
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Originally Posted by BC758 View Post
Hello everyone!

My name is Pastor Brian. I have been in ministry for over seven years with lots of involvement in urban ministry, missions throughout the world, preaching, and work with young people all throughout the US.

My wife and I are looking for a new adventure in ministry... Christian art, specifically Tattoos!

Regardless of the way you feel about tattoos I believe that they have the ability to be a great tool in showing people Christ. My body is covered in Christ centered tattoos that show people my love for the Lord. I have had many many opportunities to share the love God has for people because I can't hide it when I take my shirt off!

I'm looking to start up a tattoo shop. I'm passionate about Jesus, passionate about tattoos, and know this could be an excellent outreach for Christian artists of all kinds!

I'd love to find Christian artists of all kinds (but especially tattoo artists that would like to open a shop with me) that are interested in a vision like this... Drawing people to God through art!

Hit me up on here or feel free to email me...

Pastor Brian
Firstly, I am surprised and shocked that a "Pastor" would advocate and encourage and recommend and promote people getting tattoo's when it's directly forbidden by God!

Secondly, I do however, acknowledge and congratulate you on your passion to witness for Jesus.

BUT...... it is your will, not God's will, that you open a tattoo shop!

1 Sam 16:7 teaches us that God looks at the heart, and men look at the external. You have conformed to the world's way of thought and not God's way of thought.

Isaiah 55:8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD.


Start to think like God... and stop thinking like the world.

And in conclusion I will leave you with a thought to ponder...if Jesus came to Earth in 2010 and walked the Earth, do you believe Jesus would open up a tattoo shop and encourage people to get tattoos for EXTERNAL expression?
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Originally Posted by BC758 View Post
Jerushabelle,

I want to thank you for your post. I want to preface this post by saying that I AM NOT LOOKING FOR A DEBATE but I am rather looking for Christian brothers and sisters who want to take part in something God is doing. I need friends not foes. Don't major on the minors and remember that Legalism, misappropriation of the biblical text and squabbles between Christians are the very things that I am trying to avoid by creating this ministry. I'm ministering to the people that others have turned away from Christ.

The fundamentals of the faith are what is paramount when discussing any Christian topic and proper biblical hermeneutics are MANDATORY when reciting the scripture. The key priciple being taking scipture in its context. Leviticus 19:28 in its context has to be understood in light of the Israelites association with the Cannanite and Egyptian pagan religous practice of tattooing the name of false gods on the names of hand and other spots which would lend to identification with false gods.

Again, lets show people what we argree on and not what we disagree on. The whole world knows what we disagree on so lets do them one better by showing grace and love which is motivated by our Lord and Savior...

Still looking for comments from Christian artists!!!!

Love in Christ
Brian
You know what...?

Good for you for ministering to people that traditional Christians can't reach. We were told to make disciples of all people and showing people love, not condemning them, is certainly the best way. Best of luck to you!
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Originally Posted by lhermann3 View Post
You know what...?

Good for you for ministering to people that traditional Christians can't reach. We were told to make disciples of all people and showing people love, not condemning them, is certainly the best way. Best of luck to you!
If I told you not to touch a hot pan so you will not be hurt, would you find that condemning?
If I told you don't go that close to the edge of a cliff because the ground is not stable,
would you find that condemning also?
To warn someone of a breech of God's Law is not condemnation, it's love.
Condemnation sounds like, "You are going to burn in Hell."
I did not read that in any of the posts.
Do you consider God condemning also?
They are, after all, God's Laws.
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Originally Posted by lhermann3 View Post
You know what...?

Good for you for ministering to people that traditional Christians can't reach. We were told to make disciples of all people and showing people love, not condemning them, is certainly the best way. Best of luck to you!
The Old Testament law commanded, “Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD” (Leviticus 19:28).

The fact that there was a command against tattoos should raise some questions and concerns...and you have to ask yourself WHY DID GOD FORBID TATTOOS!!!

You are free to teach contrary to God if you want.
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Originally Posted by ILoveTheTruthJC View Post
The Old Testament law commanded, “Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD” (Leviticus 19:28).

The fact that there was a command against tattoos should raise some questions and concerns...and you have to ask yourself WHY DID GOD FORBID TATTOOS!!!

You are free to teach contrary to God if you want.
I am by no means teaching anything. It would be foolish of me to think that I am more spiritually mature than anyone at this table. However, if you look 8 verses higher you'll see "Do not wear clothing woven of two different kinds of materials" is such a decree equally applicable in our way of life today?

If it is, than nearly every Christian alive is an unwitting lawbreaker, however if such a decree were issued because of context like the OP has stated that would explain a good bit about what was said.
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I am by no means teaching anything. It would be foolish of me to think that I am more spiritually mature than anyone at this table. However, if you look 8 verses higher you'll see "Do not wear clothing woven of two different kinds of materials" is such a decree equally applicable in our way of life today?

If it is, than nearly every Christian alive is an unwitting lawbreaker, however if such a decree were issued because of context like the OP has stated that would explain a good bit about what was said.
I actually never wear any clothing woven of two different kinds of materials. All my shirts are natural cotton for example and my jeans too. My suit is 100% wool. I never wear any synthetic man made crap.. all my clothing are natural that feel great and breathe well in summer.

Be careful brother...you are being deeply conditioned to conform to the world way of thought. Remember..God never changes, neither does his teachings! The biggest trap for Christians living in the 21st century is they they conform to the world and stray from the Scripture teachings.

CONFORMITY IS DANGEROUS TO CHRISTIANS!

That's why God asks you to live a HOLY LIFE...holy means to be SEPARATE from the world!

Don't become complacent when it comes to God and his teachings....this applies in 2010... NO TATTOOS...and God teaches it for a reason, and if you don't fully understand that reason, then you need to study God's Word more and get to know God more.
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