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Time of Year Jesus Christ Was Born

I'd like to explore the different ideas of when Jesus Christ was born. There are three times.

1) Most Christians believe that it was on 12/25 by the Gregorian calandar, which is about the time of the winter solstice.

2) Some Christians believe He was born at Passover in the Spring (Nisan) about the time of the spring equinox.

3) A few Christians believe it was at Tabernacles in the Fall (Tishri) about the time of the fall equinox.

Why does it matter? Fulfilled prophecy. Truth. Prophecy to be fulfilled.

I believe our Lord and Saviour was born at Tabernacles (God with us), number 3, for numerous reasons. What do you think and why? Perhaps we can come to a conclusion.
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Most if not all Christians do not beleive that is was 12/25, why would you even post that?
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Celebrating his birth on that day and believing that he was literally born on that day are two different things. I celebrate the Nativity on the day it shows up on my Churches cycle of feasts. It's possible connection or lack of connection with the exact date Christ was born is not particularly relevant to me.
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The theological significance of the timing of the celebrated feast of His birth (as juxtaposed with that of the Forerunner) is obvious. I care very little if it was the actual date.
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Originally Posted by Standing Up View Post
I'd like to explore the different ideas of when Jesus Christ was born. There are three times.

1) Most Christians believe that it was on 12/25 by the Gregorian calandar, which is about the time of the winter solstice.

2) Some Christians believe He was born at Passover in the Spring (Nisan) about the time of the spring equinox.

3) A few Christians believe it was at Tabernacles in the Fall (Tishri) about the time of the fall equinox.

Why does it matter? Fulfilled prophecy. Truth. Prophecy to be fulfilled.

I believe our Lord and Saviour was born at Tabernacles (God with us), number 3, for numerous reasons. What do you think and why? Perhaps we can come to a conclusion.
Kool, I cant say either way yet I have yet to study this one out thoroughly bro, but Im glad you brought this up because I am always looking for something that adds to my learning

Question though, because of the wording (in the plural and in the singular) for instance, as it says, "To wit, God was in Christ" as in a sort of tabernacling in one tabernacle (singularly) whereas it speaks of the feast of the tabernacles (plurally) do you take this into consideration accordingly? Christ come as one man in the flesh (singularly) but it also speaks of Christ in us (plurally).

Have you found a distinct difference in the pictures at all?
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Originally Posted by boswd View Post
Most if not all Christians do not beleive that is was 12/25, why would you even post that?
Really? Folks are simply going along with the flow of tradition, but don't really believe it?
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The Church has never stated that Christ was born on 12/25, however that is the established date of the celebration.

Truth is... The Church has never said... so, I don't think we know.

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Question is...

Does it matter?

Is the basis of our salvation going to be whether one celebrated on December 25, January 7 or whatever the date may be exact or not?
Given what evidence there is about the basis of our salvation I would say... probably not.
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Kool, I cant say either way yet I have yet to study this one out thoroughly bro, but Im glad you brought this up because I am always looking for something that adds to my learning

Question though, because of the wording (in the plural and in the singular) for instance, as it says, "To wit, God was in Christ" as in a sort of tabernacling in one tabernacle (singularly) whereas it speaks of the feast of the tabernacles (plurally) do you take this into consideration accordingly? Christ come as one man in the flesh (singularly) but it also speaks of Christ in us (plurally).

Have you found a distinct difference in the pictures at all?
Interesting thought. Technically, I'd say Moses built the tabernacle and they had the feast of booths. (literally, booths of branches--so, this: jn. 15:5 I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.)



Skenopegia

the construction of a tabernacle or tabernacles the feast of tabernacles; this festival was observed by the Jews yearly for seven days, beginning with the 15th of the month Tisri (approx. our Oct.) partly to perpetuate the memory of the time when their ancestors after leaving Egypt dwelt in tents on their way through the Arabian desert, and partly as a season of festivity and joy on the completion of the harvest and the vintage (the festival of ingatherings) In celebrating the festival the Jews were accustomed to construct booths of the leafy branches of trees, -- either on the roofs or in the courts of their dwellings, or in the streets and squares, and to adorn them with flowers and fruits of all kinds -- under which, throughout the period of the festival, they feasted and gave themselves up to rejoicing.
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Skenos

a tabernacle, a tent metaph. of the human body, in which the soul dwells as in a tent, and which is taken down at death


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