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Unread 17th October 2010, 11:16 AM
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I was sent this information from a family member and I find it most disturbing, please read and share your thoughts

Wow, I just found out Yahoo and other email providers are trying to block this information. I hadn't ran across that before, that is weird and scary!

Dhimmitude -- What does it mean?

It is used in the health care law. Dhimmitude -- I had never heard the word until now. Type it into Google and start reading. Pretty interesting stuff. It's on page 107 of the healthcare bill. Looked it up on Google and yep, it exists. It’s a REAL word.

Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.

ObamaCare allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States. Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be "gambling", "risk-taking", and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.

How convenient. So, regular citizens will have buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance. Non-Muslim will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslim. Period. This is Dhimmitude.

Dhimmitude serves two purposes: It enriches the muslim masters AND serves to drive conversions to Islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to Islam will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation X, Y, and Z types who have no moral anchor anyway. "Sure, I'll be a muslim if it means free health insurance and no taxes. Where do I sign, bro?"

Obama used it in the health care bill.
Every day there's another revelation of what Obama and his followers are doing to this country. Please check it out on Snopes under Health Insurance Exemptions.
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Unread 17th October 2010, 11:51 AM
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I did a google search of this..."Snopes under Health Insurance Exemptions" And if I read the article right it actually sounds like most U S Muslims would have a hard time qualifying for the exemption. I'm no Obama fan, but honestly this just sounds to me like more effort to cast him as "the enemy". Maybe he is I don't know. Personally weather he's Muslim or not isn't my biggest concern about what's going on in the Washington.
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The fact congress exempted themselves from this law is enough for me to say we should repeal it.
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Originally Posted by socallindy View Post
I was sent this information from a family member and I find it most disturbing, please read and share your thoughts
First of all, almost all of these type of e-mails a false or contain misleading information. I spend a lot of time educating my friends and family about these false e-mails.

There are a few good sites which you can check out to find the truth in these matters. You can also find the truth about political issues. They report on or against everyone.

On this matter:“Dhimmitude” and the Muslim Exemption | FactCheck.org

Q: Will Muslim Americans be exempt from the mandate to have health insurance?
A: The Muslim faith does not forbid purchasing health insurance, and no Muslim group has ever been considered exempt under the definitions used in the health care law.

FULL QUESTION
Are Muslims exempted from the new health care law? Is any of the following chain e-mail true?


Go to the site that I gave above for the rest. Here are the home pages of the sites.


FactCheck.org


snopes.com: Urban Legends Reference Pages


PolitiFact | Sorting out the truth in politics

At the above site you can find a running Truth-O-Meter for Obama's campaign promises.
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Originally Posted by socallindy View Post
I was sent this information from a family member and I find it most disturbing, please read and share your thoughts.
Okay.

Dhimmitude -- What does it mean?

It is used in the health care law. Dhimmitude -- I had never heard the word until now. Type it into Google and start reading. Pretty interesting stuff. It's on page 107 of the healthcare bill. Looked it up on Google and yep, it exists.
No, actually it does not. Here is the full text of the Health Care Bill. You can look at page 107 for yourself and see that it does not mention Dhimmitude or anything remotely related to anything that you're talking about in this post. You can use your browser's search function and verfiy that neither Dhimmitude nor anything else related to Islam are ever mentioned anywhere in the entire bill. Your claims are outright lies and you should be ashamed to make them.

Originally Posted by Yarddog
First of all, almost all of these type of e-mails a false or contain misleading information. I spend a lot of time educating my friends and family about these false e-mails.
Of course education only works when the target wants to be educated. Clearly the people who write this stuff know perfectly well that their intended audience has no interest in the actual truth. By saying things like "it's on page 107 of the health care bill" they make themselves sound credible to people who don't check facts. Of course anyone who does check the facts will see the lie immediately.
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While I personally think Obamacare is a travesty, I can't consider any of its mandates to be an example of dhimmitude. We have not been conquered by jihad.

What appals me is that any religious group would be exempted on concientious objector status. If concientious objection is the only criteria, more than half the people in the U.S. should be granted an exemption.

Maybe I'll become Amish for a day. :-)
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Even if we were going to become dhimmi under sharia law, there are Biblical ways of dealing with it, including not freaking out over it. The way I see it either God is in control, or he's not, and if his being in control means I become a dhimmi for a little bit then fine.
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Can we please not feed the new, one-post member whose first and only action on this forum is to post a highly inflammatory thread?
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Can we please not feed the new, one-post member whose first and only action on this forum is to post a highly inflammatory thread?
This is not an inflammatory thread. Sister wannabedesigirl put it best.

Not that Islam is a threat, but if God ALmighty allows for us to be conquered by Islamists then so be it. We have the Truth in Jesus Christ, and if we maintain the Truth in Him, we will be exalted, like brothers Daniel, Joseph, Moses etc.

Although Islam is not a threat since it is the antichrist and his beasts who already control this planet, including the Islamist terrorists like Mr Osman. Osama bin Laden.

Even if this were true, it would only be there to keep our eyes on those crazy Muslims, and off of the satan worshiping free masons who control the beasts.
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wow talk about missing the mark thou shall have no other God you either stand for God or He will send you to hell with the rest of the muslims you cannot become muslim to save your keister in this world or you will never live in eternity with the one true GOD CHRIST JESUS
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