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Old 27th September 2010, 09:14 AM
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What proof do you offer of this? (More than just you saying so, please.)




If you want the churches to unite why aren't you pushing for the use of the existing liturgical calendar which most non-denoms don't acknowledge?



The KJV has been proven time and again to be less than perfect and is not the only accepted version of the Bible worldwide. So you want to team up one of the oldest translations of the Bible with some new fangled calendar that you came up with and declare world peace. Good luck with that.

You solution is much too simplistic to deal with the complexities of international/interreligional relations. You are not going to gather the peoples of the world together under a calendar and have them all sing Kum Ba Yah just because you think it is a good idea. All non-Judeo-Christians will reject your calendar as not being worth the paper it is printed on. Many Christian groups will reject it because it will be seen as from man not from God (not everyone will interpret scripture as you do). Most Jews will reject it because it is no longer based on the seasons and their natural timing, but on a timing set up by one man.

This whole thing is beginning to sound like one big ego trip to me. And ego trips usually end baddly.

They have to accept it eventually because it is the truth. It really is simple, but you try to make it more complicated than it is. Love fulfills the law and you get a King James Bible Holy Book and a simple calendar and holiday system and public education system to manage society.

Seems the rejectors you describe are just modern day pharisees.
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Pentecost. The Holy Spirit is with us. Pentecost is May 10 (3/10) on the calendar. 50 days after Easter on March 22 (1/22)
But Jesus will (future tense) return one day. Paul told the Thessalonians as much, and he told them after Pentecost.

2 Thess 2:1-2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come.
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Originally Posted by JasperJackson View Post
But Jesus will (future tense) return one day. Paul told the Thessalonians as much, and he told them after Pentecost.
2 Thess 2:1-2 1Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, 2not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come.


2 Thess 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.


I suppose you are talking about the day of Christ (Day of the Lord). The revealing of light. I see it as the Spirit returned at Pentecost and was accepted and they formed the Church but then there was a falling away and we are at today where we see the results of the falling away which is all the wars and famines and plagues. So now we all just unite into the New Jerusalem to fix it.

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This New Jerusalem Church is the leading Church from the Spirit of God. The churches need to conform to the New Jerusalem standard so that they set a good example of unity to others.
need to conform? or else?

what about labor day? we need a labor day for the opening of dove season.
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Russ,

Is this the church you are a part of THE NEW JERUSALEM CHURCH ?
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Originally Posted by Wirraway View Post
need to conform? or else?

what about labor day? we need a labor day for the opening of dove season.

We have the Feast of Trumpets weekend at that time of year now.
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Originally Posted by Russ Ewert View Post


They have to accept it eventually because it is the truth. It really is simple, but you try to make it more complicated than it is. Love fulfills the law and you get a King James Bible Holy Book and a simple calendar and holiday system and public education system to manage society.

Seems the rejectors you describe are just modern day pharisees.
Nice non-answer.

Prove to me that your "revelation" is truth and maybe I will accept it. Your say so isn't proof any more than someone claiming to have been Napoleon in a former life is proof of who they are/were.
Remember, we are to test all things -and so far you aren't passing.
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Russ,

Is this the church you are a part of THE NEW JERUSALEM CHURCH ?


Yes
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Nice non-answer.

Prove to me that your "revelation" is truth and maybe I will accept it.
Remember, we are to test all things -and so far you aren't passing.

Well using the Bible as our guide for truth let's find the true date of Easter.

I have the story of Jesus coming to Jerusalem and the crucifixion during the days of unleavened bread in March the first month of the year. You can look at the calendar and see the structure. Jesus comes to Jerusalem on the tenth of the first month as the Passover Lamb which matches the Old Testament of getting a Passover lamb on the tenth of the first month. Then he has the Passover Last Supper with the apostles on the evening of Saturday the 14th then he is delivered up and taken away on the morning of Sunday the 15th the first day of Unleavened Bread where he sees Annas then Caiaphas that week then eventually Pilate who has him sent to be crucified on Friday the 20th and he is in the tomb on Saturday the 21rst and rose again on Easter Sunday the 22nd. Then they see him 40 days until Ascension Day on Apr 31 where he goes to the Father and then the Holy Spirit births the Church at Pentecost 50 days after Easter on May 10


How do you calculate the date of Easter using the Bible?
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