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Peaceful Dove; wanted some new post on the Charismatic Catholic, apparently from Charismatic non-Catholic. I am not Catholic, have never been to a Catholic service, but I am a Chaismatic, spiritually gifted Christian,who hears from the Lord. And there are things I have heard from Him that I don't really go over with my Charismatic friends.

For example, When the Lord asked me to open and run a Christian bookstore for Him. He told me to get Catholic books also. I tried to reason with Him. "Lord, I am not expecting much business from the Catholic community", of course that didn't go very far with Him. So He showed me a publisher called Queenship publishing and had me get a number of books from them. Queenship publising was a Charismatic Catholic publisher, as far as I could tell.

Then when I was merchandising the store for opening, He forced me [instucted me clearly so again my reasoning did not prevail] to take one of my prime front widow locations to display the Catholic books that He had me get. Frankly, it made virtually no business sense. I never sold many books from that display. I'm pretty sure I gave away more than I sold off that display.

Another thing, He had me go around all the Catholic churches and knock on the doors, to tell them that I was opening a Christian bookstore. And He also had me take out an ad in the bulletin of the closests Catholic church. I would not have done any of those things, except for the specific instructions of My Lord. For the record, I got virtually no response from the ad or from going to the Churches before opening.

He also had me get used books, and insisted that I get Catholic used books also. He pointed out a small handful of very old, beat-up and basically cummy looking Catholic books on e-bay and had me g,et them. They had to be the worst looking books I had in the store. He let me put them in a fairly obsure spot. I never sold those books, but I did finally give away one.

I was sitting behind the registar one day, and working on accounting, when suddenly I heard the Lord say, "That man is kind of like a Pastor." I looked up at the only customer in the store. Then I looked back down and started working again. Again the Lord said, "That man is kind of like a Pastor."

"OK Lord, What do you want me to do with that information?", I asked. But I got no response. So I went back to work.

Again the Lord said, "That man is kind of like a Pastor."

So I looked up at the man and announced. "SIR, YOU ARE KIND OF LIKE A PASTOR!"

Stunned, the man look at me and said, "I'm a Catholic priest."

I thought Catholic priest always wore the white collar type of thing. He was dressed nice, but looked normal to me. He had a book in his hands from that old crummy group the Lord had me get, and He was thrilled.

It turned out that crummy beat up old book was written by a friend and priest that he had gone to school with a long time ago. He had been looking for that very book for years and if I understood him correctly, he had been asking the Lord how he might get it.

I of course gave it to him, because it was pretty much useless to me, and there was no way I was going to charge this man whom the Lord specifically pointed out to me, for that crummy looking book.

Now this was not all, nor even the most spectacular ways that my Lord has made it clear to me that He is all for the Catholic church. That does not mean that He has ever asked me to go to a Catholic mass. He never has, even when I made it perfectly clear that He could. Still He has indeed made it very clear that the Catholic church is His.
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wow that's very interesting, thanks for sharing! God bless
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Peaceful Dove; wanted some new post on the Charismatic Catholic, apparently from Charismatic non-Catholic. I am not Catholic, have never been to a Catholic service, but I am a Chaismatic, spiritually gifted Christian,who hears from the Lord. And there are things I have heard from Him that I don't really go over with my Charismatic friends.

For example, When the Lord asked me to open and run a Christian bookstore for Him. He told me to get Catholic books also. I tried to reason with Him. "Lord, I am not expecting much business from the Catholic community", of course that didn't go very far with Him. So He showed me a publisher called Queenship publishing and had me get a number of books from them. Queenship publising was a Charismatic Catholic publisher, as far as I could tell.

Then when I was merchandising the store for opening, He forced me [instucted me clearly so again my reasoning did not prevail] to take one of my prime front widow locations to display the Catholic books that He had me get. Frankly, it made virtually no business sense. I never sold many books from that display. I'm pretty sure I gave away more than I sold off that display.

Another thing, He had me go around all the Catholic churches and knock on the doors, to tell them that I was opening a Christian bookstore. And He also had me take out an ad in the bulletin of the closests Catholic church. I would not have done any of those things, except for the specific instructions of My Lord. For the record, I got virtually no response from the ad or from going to the Churches before opening.

He also had me get used books, and insisted that I get Catholic used books also. He pointed out a small handful of very old, beat-up and basically cummy looking Catholic books on e-bay and had me g,et them. They had to be the worst looking books I had in the store. He let me put them in a fairly obsure spot. I never sold those books, but I did finally give away one.

I was sitting behind the registar one day, and working on accounting, when suddenly I heard the Lord say, "That man is kind of like a Pastor." I looked up at the only customer in the store. Then I looked back down and started working again. Again the Lord said, "That man is kind of like a Pastor."

"OK Lord, What do you want me to do with that information?", I asked. But I got no response. So I went back to work.

Again the Lord said, "That man is kind of like a Pastor."

So I looked up at the man and announced. "SIR, YOU ARE KIND OF LIKE A PASTOR!"

Stunned, the man look at me and said, "I'm a Catholic priest."

I thought Catholic priest always wore the white collar type of thing. He was dressed nice, but looked normal to me. He had a book in his hands from that old crummy group the Lord had me get, and He was thrilled.

It turned out that crummy beat up old book was written by a friend and priest that he had gone to school with a long time ago. He had been looking for that very book for years and if I understood him correctly, he had been asking the Lord how he might get it.

I of course gave it to him, because it was pretty much useless to me, and there was no way I was going to charge this man whom the Lord specifically pointed out to me, for that crummy looking book.

Now this was not all, nor even the most spectacular ways that my Lord has made it clear to me that He is all for the Catholic church. That does not mean that He has ever asked me to go to a Catholic mass. He never has, even when I made it perfectly clear that He could. Still He has indeed made it very clear that the Catholic church is His.
I just finally read this post. It made the hair on the back of my neck stand on end. A dear Catholic brother and a partner on my Charismatic Healing team bought a Christian bookstore. You two need to compare notes. I am sending him a copy of your post. If he allows me, may I message you his email address. His name is John, by the way. Please put him on your prayer list for success with his store. Times are hard here in Northern CA.
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may God bless you and keep you safe from all evils

thank you for sharring your story with us... i can never hear the message that the Lord has for me... only once was it clear
i know many bookstores around here that sell anti-catholic material... i am glad yours is not like this
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Baruch 1:16 [NAB] that we, with our kings and rulers and priests and prophets, and with our fathers, have sinned in the Lord's sight and disobeyed him. We have neither heeded the voice of the Lord, our God, nor followed the precepts which the Lord set before us.

It is very important that we try to listen to the Lord. Hearing with faith is what Paul called it. And here is another thing that He pointed out to me, that strongly favors the Catholic church.

When I sit down in the morning to meet with the Lord, He has instructed me to take with me a Bible. Because I had a Christian bookstore [I have since given it to a Southern Baptist Pastor, and he runs it to this day in a building that houses several small Christian churches] I have a number of Bibles. The one out of habit I usually take is a NASB. Yet that is that the best Bible to take?

The Lord pointed this out to me in the past, and because of this thread, I remember what He had pointed out to me. The NASB has 66 books. Now I am not too into the meaning of numbers, but clearly the Lord using numbers to get across meanings at times. The number 3 seems to come up in the Scriptures in connection with death and resurrection. The number 7 seems to respresent completion, fullfilment, or a perfect number. And of course the number 666 is the number of Satan.

So I take a Bible that is comprised of 66 books with me before the Lord. Well, I confess that I am not all that smart. How many books comprise the Catholic Bible? 73 isn't it?

Now the Lord has never had any trouble teaching me out of the Bible with 66 books. What the Devil means for evil the Lord uses for good, doesn't He?

Anyway, the Lord pointed this out to me a number of years ago. At that time I went back and read all the books in the Catholic Bible I had missed when the Lord first came into my life. I had heard before doing this, not from the Lord of course, that us Protestants used the Bible we did because you could see Jesus Christ in all the books of the Bible, but that wasn't the case with the other books included in the Catholic Bible. WOW, was that ever wrong!!

The book of Tobit is such a wonderful story about a young man that with the help of an angel goes back to pick up a treasure from a far away land and winds up finding a bride. Doesn't that remind you of the Lord coming to earth and being lead by the Spirit in order to get His bride?

The Book of Sirach derives its name from the author, Jesus, son of Eleazar, son of Sircah

Wisdom has an unknown author, and while obviously written after the time of king Solomon, it almost seems like it was written by Soloman. A close looked at what God told David about Solomon reveals that his son Solomon would always rules. Obviously Solomon, [Man of Peace] is another name for the Prince of Peace, our Lord Jesus Christ, and in Prov 2:1-6 we are told that wisdom comes from His mouth.

So this morning I got a little smarter and took both my NASB and my NAB [Catholic Bible] with me for my morning time with the Lord. That we He had a choice. What did He choose today? Well I opened this post with the thread He discussed with me this morning.

Baruch 1:16 [NAB] that we, with our kings and rulers and priests and prophets, and with our fathers, have sinned in the Lord's sight and disobeyed him. We have neither heeded the voice of the Lord, our God, nor followed the precepts which the Lord set before us.

We do indeed need to understand that we have all sinned in the Lord's sight, and have not heeded the voice of the Lord like we should, nor followed the precepts which He has set before us like we should, and that includes us, our kings and rulers and priests and prophets, and our fathers.

I need to start taking that NAB Bible with me for my time with the Lord. Why should I only take 66 books when I can take 73?
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I think it might help to look into the history of the Bible

in the early Church, the Councils decided (with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit) which books of the Bible are Scripture, and which are not. (there were many false books going around). The Pope then approved the list. This list was as we find in the Catholic Bible today.

However, not all the books were used in liturgy. There are many, like Revelations, which were not used.

In the Reformation, they thought the books that weren't used in liturgy, weren't considered Scripture by the early Church.. so they were discarded and we got 66 books. However, the early Church DID consider those other ones to be Scripture also.

In addition, Martin Luther wanted to get rid of James and Revelation.... and other Reformers didn't let him, basically. If they had agreed, Protestant Bibles wouldn't have James or Revelation either.

That's one of the reasons why I think the Bible has more than 66 books.. because historically, that's how it was.

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I think it might help to look into the history of the Bible

in the early Church, the Councils decided (with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit) which books of the Bible are Scripture, and which are not. (there were many false books going around). The Pope then approved the list. This list was as we find in the Catholic Bible today.

However, not all the books were used in liturgy. There are many, like Revelations, which were not used.

In the Reformation, they thought the books that weren't used in liturgy, weren't considered Scripture by the early Church.. so they were discarded and we got 66 books. However, the early Church DID consider those other ones to be Scripture also.

In addition, Martin Luther wanted to get rid of James and Revelation.... and other Reformers didn't let him, basically. If they had agreed, Protestant Bibles wouldn't have James or Revelation either.

That's one of the reasons why I think the Bible has more than 66 books.. because historically, that's how it was.

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It was my understanding that Jerome, back about 400 AD, was sent to to the Holy land to produce a Latin translation, the Vulgate, which is basically the Catholic Bible that is used today.

Yet regardless, we clearly have two Bibles used today. One with 66 books and one with 73. I primarily read a translation with 66 books, but the other 7 books (and that in itself is an interest number to be the difference between the 2 Bibles) are of some value.

For example, I have seen books written on the Jewish feasts with the meaning and how Chrsit has filled some of the feast, and speculation as to how Christ will fulfill the others. To understand the feast the Maccabees become necessary. So how is it that they are not included in most of the Bibles I have?

It hasn't prevented me from coming to know the Lord, and that is what is really important, so I don't want to make more of it than should be made. Yet it is somewhat interesting, especially considering the zeal for the Scriptures I have seen at times in church.

I have seen preachers [not Catholic] lift the Bible over their head and proclaim, "I am going to preach the Word of God". Yet when I read the Scriptures, they say that the Lord must be lifted up and that His name is called "The Word of God.

I love the Spirit filled churches I go to [Protestant], but I would not say that we have it all together. It seems to me that too many are going to be telling the Lord on that day "Didn't we cast out demons and prophesy in your name" only to be told that He never knew them.

So then, believing in Him and listening to Him is what is really important. And He had me go back and read the seven books missing in most of my Bibles.
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There is one last post I would like to make on this thread. It has to do with the many wonderful Christians [people who know the Lord well] that have come through the Catholic Church.

The reason I took the invitation to come post on the Catholic Spirit filled sight was that I wanted to express my complete conviction that the Catholic Church is a wonderful church of the Lord's. I say that because of the things my Lord, whom I hear from and try to follow, has told me, shown me, and testified to me. Also because of the Catholic Bible being a better Bible as far as telling the story of the Lord Jesus Christ. And also because of the clear examples of Catholics who know the Lord, even up to this day.

I am not a Catholic, so I don't follow the teachings and assorted things going on in the Catholic church, but even I have come across some writing and such of Catholics who very clearly know my Lord.

Padre Pio is one of my favorites. It is so completely obvious that this man knows my Lord. I say knows because God is God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and I belive firmly that He is the God of Padre Pio.

From everything that I have read, it is clear to me that Padre Pio was clearly hearing from the Lord. The same One I call Lord. It is not always clear when someone is hearing from the Lord of Lords, but it is clear based upon the testimonies of those familiar with Padre Pio that he clearly was hearing from the Lord. Yet if someone was not to believe the testimonies of people, how can you deny the testimony of God, and he was given that.

I also love the writing of Madame Jeanne Guyon. I have a number of her books, and it is clear that she had a wonderful relationship with the Lord also. That is what's important. God is love, so if we are to know love we must know the Lord. There truely is no other way.

When I was giving that Catholic priest the book he wanted from the Christian book store, the Lord told me how He really loved that man. Well.. I have nothing more to go on concerning that man than the testimony that the Holy Spirit gave me concerning him, but I am certain that testimony is true. For these reason I am certain the Lord loves the Catholic Church, though I am certain that not all in the Catholic church know the Lord as well as Padre Pio.

May God Bless you, all of you, and thank you for the invitation.
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Originally Posted by K2K View Post
It was my understanding that Jerome, back about 400 AD, was sent to to the Holy land to produce a Latin translation, the Vulgate, which is basically the Catholic Bible that is used today.
that is the translation to Latin... but before then, the books of the Bible were already declared Scripture by the early Church Councils it was the same number of books as in the Catholic Bible. The "Protestant Bible" came to be in the Reformation. The Eastern Orthodox, who are the other ancient church, also have more than 66 books..


Yet regardless, we clearly have two Bibles used today. One with 66 books and one with 73. I primarily read a translation with 66 books, but the other 7 books (and that in itself is an interest number to be the difference between the 2 Bibles) are of some value.

For example, I have seen books written on the Jewish feasts with the meaning and how Chrsit has filled some of the feast, and speculation as to how Christ will fulfill the others. To understand the feast the Maccabees become necessary. So how is it that they are not included in most of the Bibles I have?

It hasn't prevented me from coming to know the Lord, and that is what is really important, so I don't want to make more of it than should be made. Yet it is somewhat interesting, especially considering the zeal for the Scriptures I have seen at times in church.

I have seen preachers [not Catholic] lift the Bible over their head and proclaim, "I am going to preach the Word of God". Yet when I read the Scriptures, they say that the Lord must be lifted up and that His name is called "The Word of God.

I love the Spirit filled churches I go to [Protestant], but I would not say that we have it all together. It seems to me that too many are going to be telling the Lord on that day "Didn't we cast out demons and prophesy in your name" only to be told that He never knew them.

So then, believing in Him and listening to Him is what is really important. And He had me go back and read the seven books missing in most of my Bibles.
I see what you mean I agree that listening to God and doing His will is what is important. That's something I fail at every single day though
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