As a Christian business owner and having to deal with employees every day. Yes, it is ethical to have a reason to fire someone. You certainly should not fire someone without just cause. In my state we have to pay unemployment tax (which are pretty steep) ... If I fired someone ... I need to have just cause or 'reasons' ... because if those employees file an unemployment case ... the state will contact me and want to know the 'reasons' for that termination. Then they determine whether or not they will pay this person unemployment benefits. So ... ethical? I am bound by law to have reasons or cause to terminate someone.
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FM1385
One of us has misunderstood the question.
If there's a good reason why someone deserves to be fired it's hard to see why they shouldn't get fired. I understood the question to be referring to someone who hasn't done anything worthy of being fired but the boss wants them gone anyway for some other reason. If the boss just wants someone gone, be it due to a personality issue or because the boss wants to hire their son or whatever, I still say hunting for some justification to fire someone when they are a good worker is unethical.
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In my state we have to pay unemployment tax (which are pretty steep) ... If I fired someone ... I need to have just cause or 'reasons' ... because if those employees file an unemployment case ... the state will contact me and want to know the 'reasons' for that termination.
The other thing to consider -- even though it appears unemployment comes as a right, and we pay into it... if an employee is laid off, the employer still has responsibility for them, with regards to unemployment insurance. Employer's rates go up each time someone makes a claim.... hard to explain but it's very different than it appears. Essentially, the employer is not completely free of an ex-employee who abuses the system. It's similar to how alimony payments stop when an ex remarries, but not while they're engaged.
One thing to clarify -- is the employer looking to create evidence in order to fire for a different cause -- OR -- is the employer looking to document problems that exist? i.e. - the employer knows of problems, and believes they are enough for firing, but wants to be sure to have the whole picture and to document issues completely in order to protect the business from firing improperly. If the person deserves to be fired for things related to what the employer is asking you to document, I don't see an ethical problem.
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John 18:37 (NASB)
Is it ethical as a Christian to look for reasons to fire someone or help an employer find reasons to fire someone?
this has corruption all over it.. even that very question states that it is fraudulent.. let me put it to you like this...... "RUN".. your employer has to find something to fire someone.. it reminds me of the men that were brought in to unjustly accuse the apostle stephen.. what part in this wicked scheme do you have friend? i am ashamed.. really i am.. that another that claims to be a part of the same body as i have a share in could be so spiteful..
If there's a good reason why someone deserves to be fired it's hard to see why they shouldn't get fired. I understood the question to be referring to someone who hasn't done anything worthy of being fired but the boss wants them gone anyway for some other reason. If the boss just wants someone gone, be it due to a personality issue or because the boss wants to hire their son or whatever, I still say hunting for some justification to fire someone when they are a good worker is unethical.
I agree. If you have to help someone look for a reason to fire another, it screams of unlawful discrimination.
Unlawful? Yep. Because if the employee deserves to be fired, you don't have to look for a reason. And it's the place of the boss to do that, and no one else. For anyone to offer to help the boss find a reason shows the person offering to help deserves to be fired. Both the person offering to help and the boss can be sued, and in some cases the company insurance coverage may not cover the suit.
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