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30th August 2010, 06:34 PM
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Reps: 942,646,643,527,572,096 (power: 942,646,643,527,576) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET  Since I can't get you to answer the second question, I have to ask: "How do you know he's your father sans DNA testing?"
Unfortunately I look just like him.
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30th August 2010, 08:55 PM
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Reps: 209,698,057,446,833,376 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Mobiosity It's directly comparable. We're accepting God existence on faith, you're accepting His non-existence on faith.
Might wanna check the faith icon there, sweetheart. (Since neither can be proven. . .) We all accept our parents as our parents, sometimes you find out that your older sister is actually your mom. Sometimes you find you're adopted. Sometimes the kid that is labeled "yours" got switched at birth with the kid in the next crib. You can only have faith that things are as they seem.
Again, you're making the same mistake as AV, that by not demanding empirical proof of ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, scientists are being inconsistent.
As I said already, I wouldn't demand my children be DNA tested. I also wouldn't drop a nuclear weapon on a town to see the effect of a kiloton yield on a civilian population, because science has ethical constraints.
And again, if you want to insist that accepting parenthood on a particular standard is the same as accepting that an omnipotent creator being exists and created us despite there being no convincing objective evidence as such, then you're going to have a hard time finding anyone to take you seriously.  |
31st August 2010, 05:19 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,857,410) | | Originally Posted by Cabal And again, if you want to insist that accepting parenthood on a particular standard is the same as accepting that an omnipotent creator being exists and created us despite there being no convincing objective evidence as such, then you're going to have a hard time finding anyone to take you seriously.
If you don't DNA test them, do you have a right to go around saying you know they are your children?
And would you expect others to believe they are your children as well?
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My Mood  | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET If you don't DNA test them, do you have a right to go around saying you know they are your children?
And would you expect others to believe they are your children as well?
You have asked a few questions but have not yet given us what point you are trying to make.
You have not even defined what you mean by "parent". Are you referring to biological parents or are you referring to foster parent? I suspect you are trying to tie the notion of God the parent with human parenthood.
If you ask a question then at least clarify the reason(s) for your query.
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,857,410) | | Originally Posted by tanzanos You have asked a few questions but have not yet given us what point you are trying to make. 72
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imagine that one person in a million has a certain disease. You take a test for that disease that returns the right result 90% of the time. 10% of the time it returns the opposite of the right result (i.e. a false positive when it should be negative and a false negative when it should be positive). The test says you have the disease. What are the odds that you have the disease?
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Reps: 64,705,854,242,709,896 (power: 64,705,854,242,722) | | Originally Posted by granpa imagine that one person in a million has a certain disease. You take a test for that disease that returns the right result 90% of the time. 10% of the time it returns the opposite of the right result (i.e. a false positive when it should be negative and a false negative when it should be positive). The test says you have the disease. What are the odds that you have the disease?
the answer may not be what you first suspect.
The odds are 111,111 to 1 against you having the disease. |
31st August 2010, 11:11 AM
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Reps: 209,698,057,446,833,376 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET If you don't DNA test them, do you have a right to go around saying you know they are your children?
And would you expect others to believe they are your children as well?
Do you wait for a voice from heaven to tell you to get up in the morning? If you don't, then you're not a true Christian.
This is no more inane a suggestion than you're making with this thread. |
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,857,410) | | Originally Posted by LifeToTheFullest! Stick with bicycles, apples, Pluto, Thalidomide and the Challenger.
Not until I get a satisfactory answer to my second question.
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