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6th September 2010, 12:46 PM
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Reps: 45,773,809,592,680,992 (power: 45,773,809,592,686) | | | Personally, I think you should draw the line at anything that falls under the category of death/thrash metal, since most of these bands openly pride themselves on being Satan worshipers, and in all likelihood are. We don't question when artists claim to be Christian, so why should we doubt the sincerity of musicians who claim to be Satanists? Most probably belong to the LeVayen school of thought. Besides which, you'd do your ears a great service by avoiding throat-cancer Cookie Monster vocals, idiotic blastbeat uberdrumming, Iron-Maiden-on-crack harmony guitar squeals and laughable me-so-evil lyrical paeans to forensic pathology....all the crapola trademarks of extreme "music" that has proliferated like kudzu since nobody making this noise has any appreciable talent* besides being the Weird Kid With The Black Fingernail Polish And The Ed Gein Poster in high-school. * Sigh. This is where someone inevitably reads aloud from the death metal public relations sheet about how difficult it is to play and how you have to be a supreme musician to even attempt a classic like "Ammoniated Pungency Of Eviscerated Schoolgirl Carcasses", and how only lesser musicians with microscopic testes toil in the barley-fields of "mainstream music".
Has anybody with even two firing synapses in their skull ever bought that one?
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6th September 2010, 04:05 PM
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Not a fan of either but I don't mind melodeath metal. Wintersun being one of my favorites I think. | 
7th September 2010, 08:08 PM
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Reps: 767,453,691,968,186,112 (power: 767,453,691,968,195) | | Originally Posted by Skilletdude Actually it's black metal bands that are pretty openly satanic (particularly norwegian black metal bands if I'm not mistaken). Really, the major difference between black metal and death metal is the lyrics (or at least it used to be).
Not a fan of either but I don't mind melodeath metal. Wintersun being one of my favorites I think.
I know, it's a bummer that they're so openly Satanic. I like the sound of Agalloch and Woods of Ypres, but they're pretty satanic, doom/black metal has a cool sound though. But, it's hard to find any of it that's not Satanic, I will not listen to Satanic stuff, it just goes against my morals and what I believe in.
I try to stay away from the generic metal stuff though, it's just boring and sounds all the same, all screaming, all powerchords... Stuff like that, but I listen to post-metal quite frequently. Which combines ambience, post-rock, and metal vocals. It's basically heavier post rock, with vocals. I love it, I think it sounds incredible. So, here are mainly post-metal bands:
Katatonia's a decent doom metal sounding band, but I'm not sure of their alignment, religion wise... But, I haven't heard any evil stuff in their songs, yet, but I haven't listened to them much.
But, Rosetta and Mouth of The Architect are fantastic metal/post-metal bands that are not Satanic, in fact, the bassist of Rosetta is a Christian. There are also bands like Oceana, their first album is good metal. Oceano is also a metal band, haha, oddly, the two bands have almost identical names.
Isis is really good too, but they're not around anymore... Sadly.
Those are my top three post-metal/metal bands though.
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8th September 2010, 01:18 AM
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Reps: 9,554,006,030,392,648 (power: 9,554,006,030,395) | | Originally Posted by marlowe007 I've heard one cannibal corpse song, and I am MAD
A few things that you're all in dire need of educating:
1) Death and black metal are extremely different. Compare Ulver (fantastic band)'s Nattens Madrical to, I dunno, Nile's Annihilation of the Wicked. Completely different riffing style? production? Style of composition? Funnily enough, yes! Granted, there are a few bands which blur the lines, but they are different genres for a reason.
2) Funny how you think "generic" metal sounds the same, but yet somehow post-metal (which consists of bands trying to copy either Oceanic or Times of Grace) is not. If you think Ride the Lightning sounds the same as Black Sabbath, much less stuff like Cirith Ungol's King of the Dead, you need your ears checked. Isis are a sweet band though.
2a) Pretty much no post metal is satanic. Still, buy the Isis disco, buy the Neurosis discography and maybe Cult of Luna (not satanic, just dudes with a sweet band name) and you've heard the cream of the genre. The rest is pretty boring.
3) Agalloch and WoY aren't satanic, but they're not black metal and they're not exactly good, either. WoY in particular.. most pompous crap ever.
4)Katatonia- early stuff may be theologically dodgy (not familiar with it) but anything Dance of December Souls and after is fine, perfectly acceptable. Just a bunch of sad swedish people.
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17th September 2010, 01:09 AM
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I think the founder of the band is actually a practicing worshiper of Egyptian mythology.... | 
19th September 2010, 12:06 AM
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Reps: 209,596,707,419,194,720 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by St. Paul but I'm pretty sure Kerry King is a satanist.
Not really. He's an Atheist that likes to write about Satan.
But Slayer are really overrated thrash anyway. | 
21st September 2010, 09:17 PM
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I listen to a bit of everything including some symphonic metal. My favorites are Nightwish and Within Temptation. I think the singer/songwriter of WT is Pagan, but as far as I know there's nothing anti-Christian, and the Pagan lyrics are mostly about Earth and nature ("Mother Earth" in particular is my favorite song by them).
Therion is also awesome. Tarot as far as I know doesn't have anti-Christian lyrics. Iron Maiden is also FREAKING AWESOME. | 
16th October 2010, 07:34 PM
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Reps: 301,804,508,791,282 (power: 301,804,508,797) | | | While Slayer have an semi anti Christian lyrical theme. among other themes, the vocalist/bassist, Tom Araya is actually Catholic and the other dudes are agnostic/atheist. I never considered not listening to them!
They sound great, the guitars are mad and I never pay attention to lyrics myself anyways as I'm a guitarist and its the music not the lyrics I'm really into.
As for Deicide, yes, Glen Benton is a theistic satanist. They suck anyways.
Slayer's lyrical themes are theater, a form of entertainment and Tom Araya himself said "they are not literal or to be taken seriously" so I'd hate to see someone not enjoy Slayer because they have been mislead into thinking they are satanists.
While some of these bands in this thread don't have ideal lyrical content, unless they are theistic satanists I see no reason to avoid them. If they are possibly going to influence you negatively then you need to work towards a stronger grounding in Gods word and maybe layoff this kind of music until you have done so. However, anyone with a strong grounding in Gods word can easily enjoy this kind of music without any negative consequences in my opinion...I do so myself.
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22nd October 2010, 12:20 PM
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23rd October 2010, 04:07 PM
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