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Love Looking Young in Heaven

How Young Will We Look in Heaven

In these infirm bodies of clay, or flesh and blood, we have seen what aging does to us. Our bodies gradually break down losing strength. They tend to shrivel up and beauty turns into wrinkles and ugliness. We do not like this. CHANGE has been promised and escaping the end for the human body is a source of hope. What is the glory of the angelic form, the way we will look in our perfection? Just how young will we look?

God is a Spirit, and so are His offspring, namely “us”, Psalm 82:6-8. He is described in the Book of Daniel as “the Ancient of Days” whose hair is white and curly like lamb’s wool. In the flesh we are accustomed to parents looking older and also having white hair. That “look” commands respect and honor. Our Mother is a Spirit also and She has been described a “beautiful as no other” and no one can complain about having a beautiful mother. One only hopes that some of those features are inherited by the children. These two are the Mom and Dad of the children of light! We were all born on the 4th creation day, a long Heavenly day which is equal to 1000 earthly years. So all the offspring are essentially the same age.

Revelation 12:1. And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2. And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

Psalm 87:5. And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her. 6. The Lord shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there. Selah. 7. As well the singers as the players on instruments shall be there: all my (off)springs are in thee.

III Baruch 9:1 And they having retired, the night also fell, and at the same time came the chariot of the 2 moon, along with the stars. And I Baruch said, Lord, show me it also, I beseech of thee, how 3 it goes forth, where it departs, and in what form it moves along. And the angel said, wait and thou shalt see it also shortly. And on the morrow I also saw it in the form of a woman, and sitting on a wheeled chariot. And there were before it oxen and lambs in the chariot, and a multitude of 4 angels in like manner. And I said, Lord, what are the oxen and the lambs? And he said to me, 5 They also are angels. And again I asked, Why is it that it at one time increases, but at another 6 time decreases? And (he said to me), Listen, O Baruch: This which thou seest had been written 7 by God beautiful as no other. And at the transgression of the first Adam, it was near to Sammael when he took the serpent as a garment. And it did not hide itself but increased (Mother interfered to help out her son, Adam), and God was 8 angry with it, and afflicted it, and shortened its days. (He decreased the times She can speak to men).


The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament, Vol. 2, by R. H. Charles, Oxford Publishers


The resurrected spirit of man is MADE NEW (born again) into the glory of the angels of Heaven, our perfected state of being. We are called children of light because our brightness and beauty is like the brilliance of the sun! The flesh is designed to CLOAK our glory so that one man can look upon and recognize another man. Human eyes cannot look upon the brilliance of our spirit glory. The case in point is Father turned on Moses face and he was glowing like the sun when he came down from his rendezvous with God at the top of Sinai. The people were so frightened at our TRUE SPIRIT APPEARANCE that Moses had to put on a bonnet and veil over his head to calm the fear of the Israelites.
That is the GLORY of our immortal DNA heritage from our Parents. We are children of light, the offspring of the Great Light, the Ancient of Days.

To determine what we look like and to discern the slightly different features that make us recognizable as different sisters and brothers of glory, we will need Heavenly eyes that can look upon and focus on our glorious form. Earthly eyes cannot cut it! Every account of men seeing angels in vision or spirit form was not the real deal. God modified how they appear to men so that they may recognize that they are not flesh and blood but Heavenly beings. When Jesus arose from the grave and appeared to the disciples he kept changing form so that they did not know who he was at first. Angels at the tomb appeared as young men or caretakers. Their glory in each instance was toned down for their appearance to human eyes.

I understand that as members of Jesus’ body it is written, “We shall be like him and we will see him as he is”. If we go by earthly standards, Jesus was about 33 years old when he was crucified. So he died as a young man. I know an earthly time variable does not determine the age of the risen spirit. But I do know all of us are the same spirit-age. We will not look like any of the angelic forms men have seen in visions and dreams. We will look more like the way Moses looked when he radiated with the brilliance of the sun.

Matthew 13:43. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Daniel 12:3. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

The prophet and scribe Baruch, who wrote for Jeremiah, was given detailed information about our glorious CHANGE!

II Baruch


49 1 Nevertheless, I will again ask from Thee, O Mighty One, yea, I will ask mercy from Him who made all things. 2 "In what shape will those live who live in Thy day? Or how will the splendour of those who (are) after that time continue? 3 Will they then resume this form of the present, And put on these entrammelling members, Which are now involved in evils, And in which evils are consummated, Or wilt Thou perchance change these things which have been in the world
As also the world?" '



50 1 And He answered and said unto me: 'Hear, Baruch, this word, And write in the remembrance of thy heart all that thou shalt learn. 2 For the earth shall then assuredly restore the dead, [Which it now receives, in order to preserve them]. It shall make no change in their form, But as it has received, so shall it restore them, And as I delivered them unto it, so also shall it raise them. 3 For then it will be necessary to show to the living that the dead have come to life again, and that 4 those who had departed have returned (again). And it shall come to pass, when they have severally recognized those whom they now know, then judgement shall grow strong, and those things which before were spoken of shall come.



51 1 And it shall come to pass, when that appointed day has gone by. that then shall the aspect of those 2 who are condemned be afterwards changed, and the glory of those who are justified. For the aspect of those who now act wickedly shall become worse than it is, as they shall suffer torment. 3 Also (as for) the glory of those who have now been justified in My law, who have had understanding in their life, and who have planted in their heart the root of wisdom, then their splendour shall be glorified in changes, and the form of their face shall be turned into the light of their beauty, that they may be able to acquire and receive the world which does not die, which is then promised to 4 them. For over this above all shall those who come then lament, that they rejected My law, and stopped 5 their ears that they might not hear wisdom or receive understanding. When therefore they see those, over whom they are now exalted, (but) who shall then be exalted and glorified more than they, they shall respectively be transformed, the latter into the splendour of angels, and the former shall yet 6 more waste away in wonder at the visions and in the beholding of the forms. For they shall first behold and afterwards depart to be tormented. 7 But those who have been saved by their works. And to whom the law has been now a hope, And understanding an expectation, And wisdom a confidence, Shall wonders appear in their time. 8 For they shall behold the world which is now invisible to them, And they shall behold the time which is now hidden from them: 9 And time shall no longer age them. 10 For in the heights of that world shall they dwell, And they shall be made like unto the angels, And be made equal to the stars, And they shall be changed into every form they desire, From beauty into loveliness, And from light into the splendour of glory. 11 For there shall be spread before them the extents of Paradise, and there shall be shown to them the beauty of the majesty of the living creatures which are beneath the throne, and all the armies of the angels, who [are now held fast by My word, lest they should appear, and] are held fast by a 12 command, that they may stand in their places till their advent comes. Moreover, there shall then be 13 excellency in the righteous surpassing that in the angels. For the first shall receive the last, those whom they were expecting, and the last those of whom they used to hear that they had passed away. 14 For they have been delivered from this world of tribulation, And laid down the burden of anguish. 15 For what then have men lost their life, And for what have those who were on the earth exchanged their soul? 16 For then they chose (not) for themselves this time, Which, beyond the reach of anguish, could not pass away: But they chose for themselves that time, Whose issues are full of lamentations and evils, And they denied the world which ages not those who come to it, And they rejected the time of glory, So that they shall not come to the honour of which I told thee before.'



The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament, Vol. 2, by R. H. Charles, Oxford Publishers


When you stand on the “sea of glass” or mirror images, then you will have spirit eyes and you will be able to see the great beauty of our brothers and sisters. You will be able to change form and hair color if you like and you will not have to buy Clairol like some of us do now. Some of us might look like we are 33 years old. That is alright with me. Some might want to look 25 years old or 40 years old. I am OK with that too! But now you know what Father has prepared for us on the other side. Blessed are all those who rise sooner rather than later! All wedding guests are called up according to the EXACT BIRTH ORDER in which we were born at the beginning. And ONLY FATHER knows our numbers and that order!


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