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Humility vs meekness?

I'm not sure this is the best forum for this question, but the only other one I see that might be fitting is Christian Scriptures, which very often turns into argument, which is not what I'm looking for. (Maybe it's just the heat?)

Anyway, these 2 words are normally considered similar but not identical, and also given as synonymous.

So I'm wondering just how much is lost to a native English speaker like myself, who isn't a scholar in the original languages of the Bible?

Examples:

Num 12:3 (Now the man Moses [was] very meek, above all the men which [were] upon the face of the earth.) Strong's word 6035, anav

NT we have praos (Strong's 4235, Mt 11:29) and prays (4239) everywhere else KJV uses meek.

KJV "humble" yields similar results Moses - Judges, but later OT adds an interesting twist with Strong's word 3665, kana, implicating the hollow of the knee which reminds me of Jacob's wrestling. 8217, 7807 & 7511 seem to me to have no reasonable distinction.

NT, Strong's 5011 (Tapeinos) and 5013 are always used for humble in the KVJ.

So I'm failing to see any difference between meekness and humility, but think I must be missing something ...

I've heard it preached that Jesus driving out the moneychangers was an act of meekness, but maybe that's simply wrong?
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Humility and meekness are different.

In 1 Peter 3:4, meekness praus is seen as an attitude, a quality of the heart. This meek (or gentle) person sets his own wishes, desires, etc., aside to submit to achieve a higher end. Contrary to popular belief, meekness is not a character flaw given how much personal strength of self-control is required.

In Acts 20:19 we see humility, tapeinophrosyne, as an attitude, a quality of the mind, whereby one holds in low esteem or opinion of one's own goodness and importance.

Meekness is the opposite of self-will, self-interest, and self-assertiveness. Most often used as an attitude towards God.
Humility is the opposite of pride, haughtiness, and self-exaltation. Most often used as an attitude towards men.

Many verses in the Scriptures do interchange the word, but the key is examining the context in light of the distinctions made above.

I recommend you consult a reverse interlinear Bible or Greek and Hebrew concordances to better see how the various original languages use these words and how they are translated into English.

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Can I be so bold as to ask a follow-up question?

When speaking w/ unbelievers wisdom comes in handy, and the attitude of humility works wonders; but they can also dig in their heels in an utter lack of info, and essentially slander G-d's character. I've never felt led to humble myself in the presence of such a spirit, but to state Truth as long as they will listen, or walk away if they will not.

Am I overlooking a use for humility?
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