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4th August 2010, 06:27 PM
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Reps: 3,263,234,621,983,579 (power: 3,263,234,621,987) | | | Need help with Hebrew sentence composition I don't know how to type in Hebrew on this forum so I'll transliterate the Hebrew into English: "karath'tiy b'riyth 'im 'elohiym" I'm practicing writing sentences in Hebrew and I am trying to say "I cut (made) a covenant with God". Did I do it right? | 
7th August 2010, 06:20 AM
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כָּרַתִּי בְּרִית עִם אֱלֹהִים | 
7th August 2010, 12:33 PM
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7th August 2010, 09:51 PM
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Reps: 6,822,502,679,472,201,728 (power: 6,822,502,679,472,209) | | | By the way, do you know of any verses in the Bible that reference this idea, of cutting a covenant with God? I know that God cuts covenants with people, but do people cut them with God in the Scriptures? Covenants require two sides, so if a human is initializing it, how can you know there's a second side involved? Only when God initiates it can you really know, don't you think? | 
8th August 2010, 06:39 PM
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Reps: 3,263,234,621,983,579 (power: 3,263,234,621,987) | | | Hmmm... none off the top of my head. I'm doing a study of the word "b'riyth". I'll make a note of that and keep my eye open as I do the study. What you said does make sense, though. While still on that subject, I have a question. Is it possible in the Hebrew for that sentence to be a way of stating what occurred between the two individuals, rather than it definitely meaning that I was the one initiating the covenant? Did that make sense?
Back to the way you translated the phrase "I cut a covenant with God"... is it only with the letter "taw" that you add the dagesh when the letter is doubled, or are there other letters? For instance, if I was to use the verb "lamad" it would "lamadtiy" in first person, singular, qal perfect form. As you saw, I try to use the ancient pronounciation-- the one as revealed in "Gesenius' Hebrew Grammar", I mean-- and therefore use "th"--as in "threshold"--for taw without the dagesh. Because the verb in its 3rd person, singular, qal perfect form is "karath" (to the best of my knowledge), how would I transliterate it if it's a taw with a dagesh? Would it still be "karathtiy", or would it be "karattiy"? If it is "karathtiy", would I just have to rely on my knowledge of the verb's "regular" form as "karath" to know how it's pronounced? Sincerely, Scott | 
8th August 2010, 07:00 PM
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Reps: 6,822,502,679,472,201,728 (power: 6,822,502,679,472,209) | | | karátti. The dagesh stands for the letter being doubled if it's between two vowels. If it initiates a word or starts a syllable after sheva nach, it's not doubled. In this case it is. | 
7th September 2010, 02:51 PM
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Reps: 3,263,234,621,983,579 (power: 3,263,234,621,987) | | | I have another one I need some help with. I'm trying to say, "Thus said/says the LORD God to me, "Who is he that created the heavens and the earth? I am He."" Again, I can't get the Hebrew font on my computer so I'll have to transliterate it. "Koh-'amar YHVH 'elohiym liy "miy hu' bara' 'et hashamayim v'et ha'aretz? 'aniy hu'"" Is this correct? Thanks! -Scott |  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |