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"Look for Christ Our Lord in everyone and you will then have respect and reverence for all."
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"There are not a hundred people in America who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions of people who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church— which is, of course, quite a different thing." - Archbishop Fulton Sheen


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Old 22nd July 2010, 09:09 AM
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"Look for Christ Our Lord in everyone and you will then have respect and reverence for all."
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"Jesus, Mary and Joseph, I love you very much. I beg you to spare the life of the unborn baby that I have spiritually adopted who is in danger of abortion." - Archbishop Fulton Sheen


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Catechism of the Catholic Church

2272 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae,"77 "by the very commission of the offense,"78 and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law.79 The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society.

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77 CIC, can. 1398.
78 CIC, can. 1314.
79 Cf. CIC, cann. 1323-1324.

"A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae,"...


Can. 1398 A person who procures a completed abortion incurs a lataesententiae excommunication.

..."by the very commission of the offense,"...

Can. 1314 Generally, a penalty is ferendae sententiae, so that it does not bind the guilty party until after it has been imposed; if the law or precept expressly establishes it, however, a penalty is latae sententiae, so that it is incurred ipso facto when the delict is committed.

...and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law.

Can. 1323 The following are not subject to a penalty when they have violated a law or precept: 1/ a person who has not yet completed the sixteenth year of age;
2/ a person who without negligence was ignorant that he or she violated a law or precept; inadvertence and error are equivalent to ignorance;
3/ a person who acted due to physical force or a chance occurrence which the person could not foresee or, if foreseen, avoid;
4/ a person who acted coerced by grave fear, even if only relatively grave, or due to necessity or grave inconvenience unless the act is intrinsically evil or tends to the harm of souls;
5/ a person who acted with due moderation against an unjust aggressor for the sake of legitimate self defense or defense of another;
6/ a person who lacked the use of reason, without prejudice to the prescripts of cann. 1324, §1, n. 2 and 1325;
7/ a person who without negligence thought that one of the circumstances mentioned in nn. 4 or 5 was present.


Can. 1324 §1. The perpetrator of a violation is not exempt from a penalty, but the penalty established by law or precept must be tempered or a penance employed in its place if the delict was committed:
1/ by a person who had only the imperfect use of reason;
2/ by a person who lacked the use of reason because of drunkenness or another similar culpable disturbance of mind;
3/ from grave heat of passion which did not precede and hinder all deliberation of mind and consent of will and provided that the passion itself had not been stimulated or fostered voluntarily;
4/ by a minor who has completed the age of sixteen years;
5/ by a person who was coerced by grave fear, even if only relatively grave, or due to necessity or grave inconvenience if the delict is intrinsically evil or tends to the harm of souls;
6/ by a person who acted without due moderation against an unjust aggressor for the sake of legitimate self defense or defense of another;
7/ against someone who gravely and unjustly provokes the person;
8/ by a person who thought in culpable error that one of the circumstances mentioned in can. 1323, nn. 4 or 5 was present;
9/ by a person who without negligence did not know that a penalty was attached to a law or precept;
10/ by a person who acted without full imputability provided that the imputability was grave.
§2. A judge can act in the same manner if another circumstance is present which diminishes the gravity of a delict.
§3. In the circumstances mentioned in §1, the accused is not bound by a latae sententiae penalty.
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I'm curious, are people that voted for pro-life candidates also responsible for the deaths of mothers that have a medical necessity for abortion, or for the suffering of unwanted children born into poverty?
let me ask you a question.. how is killing the child a good solution to that? the baby in the womb has a human DNA and is therefore fully human.
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Originally Posted by Dark_Lite View Post
Good thing he's only a priest.
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"Look for Christ Our Lord in everyone and you will then have respect and reverence for all."
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"There are not a hundred people in America who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions of people who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church— which is, of course, quite a different thing." - Archbishop Fulton Sheen


"Jesus, Mary and Joseph, I love you very much. I beg you to spare the life of the unborn baby that I have spiritually adopted who is in danger of abortion." - Archbishop Fulton Sheen


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Originally Posted by Eucharisted View Post
"A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae,"...

Can. 1398 A person who procures a completed abortion incurs a lataesententiae excommunication.

..."by the very commission of the offense,"...

Can. 1314 Generally, a penalty is ferendae sententiae, so that it does not bind the guilty party until after it has been imposed; if the law or precept expressly establishes it, however, a penalty is latae sententiae, so that it is incurred ipso facto when the delict is committed.

...and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law.

Can. 1323 The following are not subject to a penalty when they have violated a law or precept: 1/ a person who has not yet completed the sixteenth year of age;
2/ a person who without negligence was ignorant that he or she violated a law or precept; inadvertence and error are equivalent to ignorance;
3/ a person who acted due to physical force or a chance occurrence which the person could not foresee or, if foreseen, avoid;
4/ a person who acted coerced by grave fear, even if only relatively grave, or due to necessity or grave inconvenience unless the act is intrinsically evil or tends to the harm of souls;
5/ a person who acted with due moderation against an unjust aggressor for the sake of legitimate self defense or defense of another;
6/ a person who lacked the use of reason, without prejudice to the prescripts of cann. 1324, §1, n. 2 and 1325;
7/ a person who without negligence thought that one of the circumstances mentioned in nn. 4 or 5 was present.


Can. 1324 §1. The perpetrator of a violation is not exempt from a penalty, but the penalty established by law or precept must be tempered or a penance employed in its place if the delict was committed:
1/ by a person who had only the imperfect use of reason;
2/ by a person who lacked the use of reason because of drunkenness or another similar culpable disturbance of mind;
3/ from grave heat of passion which did not precede and hinder all deliberation of mind and consent of will and provided that the passion itself had not been stimulated or fostered voluntarily;
4/ by a minor who has completed the age of sixteen years;
5/ by a person who was coerced by grave fear, even if only relatively grave, or due to necessity or grave inconvenience if the delict is intrinsically evil or tends to the harm of souls;
6/ by a person who acted without due moderation against an unjust aggressor for the sake of legitimate self defense or defense of another;
7/ against someone who gravely and unjustly provokes the person;
8/ by a person who thought in culpable error that one of the circumstances mentioned in can. 1323, nn. 4 or 5 was present;
9/ by a person who without negligence did not know that a penalty was attached to a law or precept;
10/ by a person who acted without full imputability provided that the imputability was grave.
§2. A judge can act in the same manner if another circumstance is present which diminishes the gravity of a delict.
§3. In the circumstances mentioned in §1, the accused is not bound by a latae sententiae penalty.


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"There are not a hundred people in America who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions of people who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church— which is, of course, quite a different thing." - Archbishop Fulton Sheen


"Jesus, Mary and Joseph, I love you very much. I beg you to spare the life of the unborn baby that I have spiritually adopted who is in danger of abortion." - Archbishop Fulton Sheen


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I find that anyone proclaiming "prophetic letters" based solely on the election of a certain political candidate to be a bit out there, to say the least. It's not like the country would be in much better shape if McCain was elected, and abortion would still be going on. This guy is proclaiming the apocalypse, and people who proclaim the apocalypse have a long history of not being right (last I heard they were batting 0 for infinity).
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Originally Posted by Dark_Lite View Post
I find that anyone proclaiming "prophetic letters" based solely on the election of a certain political candidate to be a bit out there, to say the least. It's not like the country would be in much better shape if McCain was elected, and abortion would still be going on. This guy is proclaiming the apocalypse, and people who proclaim the apocalypse have a long history of not being right (last I heard they were batting 0 for infinity).
The issue was not about anyone else. Why are you covering the faults of one by pointing our the faults of another?

Is there some specific point Father makes that you disagree with?

Father Cihak is not predicting the apocalypse any further than the Church always has, that being; that we are and have been in the last days since Christ ascended to heaven. Nothing new. We are called to watch for signs of the times.

You didn't answer my question; what exactly did you mean by "good thing he's only a priest"?

Do you not respect a priest? If not, who would you respect? Father said the same thing the Magisterium said. Is that good enough?
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