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15th June 2010, 06:31 PM
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I just want to know if Heaven is boring? I think I assume it will be because church is boring also. Like a normal teenagers I like partying with alcohol and marijuana and getting with girls. I don't think this is the only thing fun to do but I don't see the point of trying to get somewhere that is boring.
One of my good friends just came out recently and I think this stirred up my beliefs because I disagree on the Bible's view on homosexuality. He is real cool and nice to everyone so I just can't understand how God would doom him eternally just because of the people he's attracted to.
I'm just scared and sad about myself thinking I'm some immoral monster. I'm going to have sex before marriage and drink and stuff, but I just need to know if I am doomed for not wanting to go to a place that isnt fun? | 
15th June 2010, 06:56 PM
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Reps: 468,631,978,287,111,744 (power: 468,631,978,287,143) | | Originally Posted by durl1017 Hi I'm a 16 year old guy in Maryland struggling with faith. My parents used to make me go to church until recently but now I don't go because it's boring. The priest would talk about all these metaphors and stories that didn't make sense to me and we just knealed and stood.
I just want to know if Heaven is boring? I think I assume it will be because church is boring also. Like a normal teenagers I like partying with alcohol and marijuana and getting with girls. I don't think this is the only thing fun to do but I don't see the point of trying to get somewhere that is boring.
One of my good friends just came out recently and I think this stirred up my beliefs because I disagree on the Bible's view on homosexuality. He is real cool and nice to everyone so I just can't understand how God would doom him eternally just because of the people he's attracted to.
I'm just scared and sad about myself thinking I'm some immoral monster. I'm going to have sex before marriage and drink and stuff, but I just need to know if I am doomed for not wanting to go to a place that isnt fun?
One of the most frequent metaphors in the bible for the coming age is that of a party.
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15th June 2010, 07:12 PM
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15th June 2010, 07:22 PM
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Reps: 69,898,546,753,244,840 (power: 69,898,546,753,250) | | Hi I'm a 16 year old guy in Maryland struggling with faith. My parents used to make me go to church until recently but now I don't go because it's boring. The priest would talk about all these metaphors and stories that didn't make sense to me and we just knealed and stood.
From that description I would say it is boring. Mind you, I think knitting is dead boring, too, but my Grandma could knit happily for hours. So, if knitting is truly boring, why doesn't my Grandma realize it? Maybe it isn't that knitting is itself boring but only that I think it is - just like my grandma thinks it isn't. If this is true of knitting, maybe it is also true of church. Maybe church isn't actually boring, like cement is actually hard, or fire is actually hot, but you only think it is boring. Maybe church doesn't have to change to be more exciting, you do. Just a thought. I just want to know if Heaven is boring? I think I assume it will be because church is boring also.
And why do you think heaven and church are the same? Like a normal teenagers I like partying with alcohol and marijuana and getting with girls.
You're joking, right? "Normal" teenagers like partying with alcohol, drugs and girls? I know plenty of perfectly normal teens who don't enjoy partying with booze, drugs and girls. They enjoy hanging out with their friends, but this doesn't require drugs, or booze, or girls (at least not in the sense I think you mean). I think you've been watching too many cruddy National Lampoon movies. I don't think this is the only thing fun to do but I don't see the point of trying to get somewhere that is boring.
Neither do I. If you think heaven has to have booze, drugs and girls to be enjoyable, you need to expand your horizons - a lot. One of my good friends just came out recently and I think this stirred up my beliefs because I disagree on the Bible's view on homosexuality. He is real cool and nice to everyone so I just can't understand how God would doom him eternally just because of the people he's attracted to.
People don't go to heaven because they are "real nice." As far as God (who is perfectly holy is concerned) no one is nice enough to deserve heaven.
God doesn't condemn your homosexual friend because of who he is attracted to but because he has sexual relations with guys when God has said not to. I'm just scared and sad about myself thinking I'm some immoral monster.
As far as God is concerned, every human being is an immoral monster. That's why every one who doesn't accept for themselves the way God has made to enter heaven will be going to hell. Just like every other person on this planet, you need Jesus Christ to save you from the death penalty of your sins. I'm going to have sex before marriage and drink and stuff, but I just need to know if I am doomed for not wanting to go to a place that isnt fun?
You aren't doomed for not wanting to go to a place that isn't fun but for living the life God gave you in the way you wanted rather than the way He wanted.
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Reps: 3,526,819,320,471,064,064 (power: 3,526,819,320,471,097) | | Originally Posted by durl1017 Hi I'm a 16 year old guy in Maryland struggling with faith. My parents used to make me go to church until recently but now I don't go because it's boring. The priest would talk about all these metaphors and stories that didn't make sense to me and we just knealed and stood.
I just want to know if Heaven is boring? I think I assume it will be because church is boring also. Like a normal teenagers I like partying with alcohol and marijuana and getting with girls. I don't think this is the only thing fun to do but I don't see the point of trying to get somewhere that is boring.
One of my good friends just came out recently and I think this stirred up my beliefs because I disagree on the Bible's view on homosexuality. He is real cool and nice to everyone so I just can't understand how God would doom him eternally just because of the people he's attracted to.
I'm just scared and sad about myself thinking I'm some immoral monster. I'm going to have sex before marriage and drink and stuff, but I just need to know if I am doomed for not wanting to go to a place that isnt fun?
Booze just gets you drunk so you loose control. Is only fun while you drink which, depending on your tolerance level, might only be an hour or two. Girls are fun but they are also fleeting and if you get one pregnant then life gets quite complicated. Marijuana will just get you arrested. Not much fun in that.
Let me paint a picture for you. Jesus told the thief on the cross that today he would be in paradise with Him. The Greek word used here is paradeisos which means a park. Not just a park but an Eden type park which is a place of bliss and happiness. Does that sound boring? When you were smaller and your mom or dad took you to the park, where you bored? Man, this park is going to be awesome.
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15th June 2010, 08:16 PM
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15th June 2010, 08:35 PM
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I do think A Scanner Darkly (including its dedication page) should be on the Year 12 compulsory reading list.
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16th June 2010, 12:33 AM
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Reps: 3,113,200,418,867,098,624 (power: 3,113,200,418,867,118) | | Originally Posted by durl1017 Hi I'm a 16 year old guy in Maryland
Hi and welcome to CF! You ask good questions, and I for one appreciate your sincerity. I've known God personally for a long time now and from what I know of Him He agrees with that perspective.
If you are sincere about 'struggling with your Faith,' you need to read Psalms. All of it. You will find all sorts of things including basically everything you mentioned, and more. What I want to draw your attention to is that King David did NOT pretend to be 'holier than thou.' He was perfectly honest with God, and said some things anybody would consider to be just awful. Yet he gets called "A man after God's own heart." I think it would be foolish of me to try to explain that; just read it, and let it sink in. When / if you get bored with Psalms, turn to the New Testament and read all of that. I suggest starting with the last Gospel, John, because it gets you to the rest quickly and it starts "In the beginning." Originally Posted by durl1017 I'm just scared and sad about myself thinking I'm some immoral monster.
This is good! Fear of God, and a sense of the awfulness of sin. Don't lose it.
Now on to your main question:
people have perverted God's Truth. Heaven is not sitting around on a cloud all day, playing a harp. In fact, the Bible doesn't even say we go to heaven when we die! If you make a point to find out for yourself what the Bible does actually say, you will find God's immense love fills you to the bursting point in every way, so much so that you can't possibly contain it. And that doesn't even compare to what God has in store for us!
Short answer: no, our future in God isn't boring in the least. Even the little bit we get in this life is WAY better than the most fun sins you can imagine, and the sooner you realize that the better off you will be. The real trick to this life? Love what God loves, and hate what God hates. I sure couldn't do that when I was 16, but I try not to let that stop me from trying.
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See Isaiah 57:15-16, Job 7:17, Psalm 8:4, Job 15:14, Acts 17:26-28, Psalm 102:18-20 for why God cares about mankind.
See Deuteronomy 4:24 and Numbers 25 to see how vast His care is for His people.
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It's an interesting dilemma, trumped only by the follow up, "Wouldn't God be bored?"
With the contemporary view of the afterlife (heaven and hell, all souls go to one or the other), the question would have to be approached as, "If I must live eternally, what will be the least unpleasant place to spend it" From this perspective, heaven, of course, wins out. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |