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Unread 15th July 2010, 01:11 PM
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I'm familiar with the school through reputation only. I couldn't recommend anyone going there from what I've heard. They seem to be dishonest in their claims. I actually recently read a short review that a colleague of mine wrote about that school. He is a Registrar and reviews various colleges and seminaries. He must have been pretty riled when he wrote this, because it is little more aggressive than usual! Anyway, here is what he said:

. . . Their ramblings on accreditation are misguided and misleading. Amongst other things, they bash accreditation because they say doing so will affect their hiring practices. The only way it would affect your hiring is if you are hiring unqualified people that received degrees from places like this (i.e. people with no accredited degrees). They also make the somewhat common argument (in this type of institution at least) that accreditation will let the government in and they won't be able to teach true doctrine or some such thing. This is so far from the truth. "The government" can't tell a theological school what to teach. The main reason most of these types of schools aren't accredited is due to laziness - accreditation is hard work and requires time and money. It's much easier to just say that it is evil and then charge students and mail them worthless degrees.
that's from The Baptist Resource, his website.

I'm assuming he is talking about the same Northwestern Theological Seminary. If what he is saying is correct, and it seems to be, then I would have to agree that you should be leery of this place. There are much more solid, accredited places out there. I would stick with one of those.
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Again, all I can attest to is my own personal experience. I went through it myself, as opposed to accepting what someone else had to say about it. You stated, "There are much more solid, accredited places out there". How can one make such a claim when one has not experienced first hand what they have to offer? I'm sure there are "better" placed to attend with full accreditation and an even fuller bill to pay. For what I wanted to accomplish, get into my denominational seminary without paying huge $ on my undergrad, it worked fantastically.

My diploma hangs on my wall in a nice frame. I know I earned it, the work was challenging and I'm proud of having studied there. You can hate on an institution that you have no first hand knowledge of if you so desire.

I would suggest that those looking to attend any institution do their own due research and reach their own conclusions based on what they desire to accomplish. Not come to some forum where people rant about things that they themselves have not experienced.
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I won't disagree with you Netsrik about people researching for themselves. Although I haven't experienced them first-hand, I do evaluate schools as an occupation and I do see some common "red-flags" with them. That doesn't mean that they are evil or that they have bad professors. I would just be cautious when dealing with any unaccredited school. With the exception of cost, I can't see the benefit of going with any unaccredited school over an accredited one.
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I called Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary as well as Assembly of God Theological Seminary and they both told me that they accept NTS grads into their various programs.
Both are good schools so if they recognize degrees from NTS, that does help their credibility.
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Dear Poster:
You should be ashamed... For attacking an established educational ministry of the Lord, with the impure motive of advertising a non accredited seminary.

You have just attacked a 30 year old accredited seminary with malicious statements meant to degrade respected educational ministry of God which has been responsible for thousands of Christian disciples worldwide. Do you realize that NTS has hudreds of branches in many countries worldwide where people are preparded for Gospel ministry at little or no cost to the students? It is the online NTS program that supports these ministries.

Then after verbally tearing down a lgitimate worldwide educational minsitry that is theologically accredited, you use your final pragraph to plug, or advertise an unknown school with NO accreditation. Why would you attack one respected seminary with a blatantly improper motive of advertising another less qualitified seminary? This is highly improper behavior for a Christian.

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A Report From Miguel A. Contreras, a U.S. Federal Agent, concerning: Northwestern Theological Seminary and Christian University

Dear Christian Friends:
It is with great appreciation for this educational ministry and as an encouragement to you, that I write this short message in response to your interest in attending Northwestern.
I can attest that Northwestern has very stringent standards and expectations from the students. Christian Alliance Ministries has two professional educational ministries. These include Northwestern Christian University and Northwestern Theological Seminary. Northwestern is state authorized and theologically accredited and should definitively not be compared with deceptive organizations, many of which are headquartered overseas, which are advertising on the Internet and are nothing less than diploma mills, granting valueless degrees.
As a Federal Agent attached to several bureaus of the Department of the Treasury, I have over twenty-four years of working as an agent with the US federal government, BATF, DEA, CUSTOMS and INTERNAL AFFAIRS and I have traveled all over the world specializing in Internet fraud and other types of investigations. In fact, I have visited and developed fellowships with high-ranking officials of well-known higher education institutions all over the world.
I had the opportunity of having attended Michigan State University (MSU) where I obtained my BA, and completed one year of graduate work in criminal justice administration in 1981, the year I accepted a job with the US government on the West coast and had to relocate. MSU was one of the top universities offering under-graduate and graduate degrees in criminal justice. I also attended the University of Leicester's graduate program in security management, in the UK.
In 2002, I engaged in extensive biblical studies and received ordinations as a minister/reverend from Christian organizations after passing rigorous written examinations. Later, I decided to look for a theological institution offering quality education. After spending considerable time researching the Internet looking for what I considered a good graduate school offering Master and Doctoral degrees at a reasonable expense, I found Northwestern Theological Seminary (NTS). In comparison with other schools which charged anywhere from $5,000 to $100,000 to complete a graduate degree programs in theology, I opted for Northwestern Theological Seminary, which provided the quality of a state authorized educational program with theological accreditation at a cost that was affordable, by Love Offer to the ministry. Believe me, I prayed to the Lord for days before I applied with Northwestern. I asked he Holy Spirit to lead me and show me the way.....Then finally, as a test, I wrote to Northwestern Theological Seminary and offered a complex theological question which was immediately answered.....this was not a one single line response......Dr. Sarkela's response took almost one full page, single spaced....He quoted the Bible extensively and what he wrote made sense.....I was convinced as a servant and follower of our Father in Heaven and the Lord Jesus Christ, that Northwestern Theological Seminary, was a good school. Therefore, without any reservation, I highly recommend Northwestern Christian University, Northwestern Theological Seminary and Christian Alliance Ministries, Worldwide Educational and Evangelistic Ministries.
IN HIM,
Miguel A. Contreras

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Agent Contreras is a former U.S. Federal Agent and has served over 25 years with the The US Government. He announced his retirement in October of 2006.
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I'm thinking of working on my Master's at Northwestern Theological Seminary. Anyone taken classes there?
A Report From Miguel A. Contreras, a U.S. Federal Agent, concerning: Northwestern Theological Seminary and Christian University

Dear Christian Friends:
It is with great appreciation for this educational ministry and as an encouragement to you, that I write this short message in response to your interest in attending Northwestern.
I can attest that Northwestern has very stringent standards and expectations from the students. Christian Alliance Ministries has two professional educational ministries. These include Northwestern Christian University and Northwestern Theological Seminary. Northwestern is state authorized and theologically accredited and should definitively not be compared with deceptive organizations, many of which are headquartered overseas, which are advertising on the Internet and are nothing less than diploma mills, granting valueless degrees.
As a Federal Agent attached to several bureaus of the Department of the Treasury, I have over twenty-four years of working as an agent with the US federal government, BATF, DEA, CUSTOMS and INTERNAL AFFAIRS and I have traveled all over the world specializing in Internet fraud and other types of investigations. In fact, I have visited and developed fellowships with high-ranking officials of well-known higher education institutions all over the world.
I had the opportunity of having attended Michigan State University (MSU) where I obtained my BA, and completed one year of graduate work in criminal justice administration in 1981, the year I accepted a job with the US government on the West coast and had to relocate. MSU was one of the top universities offering under-graduate and graduate degrees in criminal justice. I also attended the University of Leicester's graduate program in security management, in the UK.
In 2002, I engaged in extensive biblical studies and received ordinations as a minister/reverend from Christian organizations after passing rigorous written examinations. Later, I decided to look for a theological institution offering quality education. After spending considerable time researching the Internet looking for what I considered a good graduate school offering Master and Doctoral degrees at a reasonable expense, I found Northwestern Theological Seminary (NTS). In comparison with other schools which charged anywhere from $5,000 to $100,000 to complete a graduate degree programs in theology, I opted for Northwestern Theological Seminary, which provided the quality of a state authorized educational program with theological accreditation at a cost that was affordable, by Love Offer to the ministry. Believe me, I prayed to the Lord for days before I applied with Northwestern. I asked he Holy Spirit to lead me and show me the way.....Then finally, as a test, I wrote to Northwestern Theological Seminary and offered a complex theological question which was immediately answered.....this was not a one single line response......Dr. Sarkela's response took almost one full page, single spaced....He quoted the Bible extensively and what he wrote made sense.....I was convinced as a servant and follower of our Father in Heaven and the Lord Jesus Christ, that Northwestern Theological Seminary, was a good school. Therefore, without any reservation, I highly recommend Northwestern Christian University, Northwestern Theological Seminary and Christian Alliance Ministries, Worldwide Educational and Evangelistic Ministries.
IN HIM,
Miguel A. Contreras

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Originally Posted by Accreditor View Post
Dear Poster:
You should be ashamed... For attacking an established educational ministry of the Lord, with the impure motive of advertising a non accredited seminary.

You have just attacked a 30 year old accredited seminary with malicious statements meant to degrade respected educational ministry of God which has been responsible for thousands of Christian disciples worldwide. Do you realize that NTS has hudreds of branches in many countries worldwide where people are preparded for Gospel ministry at little or no cost to the students? It is the online NTS program that supports these ministries.

Then after verbally tearing down a lgitimate worldwide educational minsitry that is theologically accredited, you use your final pragraph to plug, or advertise an unknown school with NO accreditation. Why would you attack one respected seminary with a blatantly improper motive of advertising another less qualitified seminary? This is highly improper behavior for a Christian.

In Christ,
Churchill Maghanoy
Administrator
International Association for Christian Educational Accountability

Don't really know who you are addressing that to, I am assuming Emzee, but I don't think this is the place for random advertisements and attacks.

If you were addressing that to me, let me say that I never said that they have done nothing for their students or that they are evil, etc. My problem was with their false assertions that THEY place on THEIR website. It's an excuse for laziness - no accreditation is a cheaper route requiring a LOT less paperwork. I know because I have to fill out that paperwork for the college I work in - but I would rather do that than have my students graduate with a piece of paper that was worthless in the U.S. If Northwestern wants to train people for ministry, that is great - I will fully support that and thank God. However, if they want to call themselves a seminary or pass themselves off as an institution of higher learning, then that is unethical - not technically illegal - but unethical. Call yourself a church ministry or an Bible institute or something like that.

I deal with a lot of students that transfer from schools like Northwestern and they are many times devastated to realize that the work they have done for 2-4 years is pretty worthless. I just can't understand how "seminaries" and "colleges" like these carry the Christian name, but act in an unethical and blatantly misleading way.
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Dear Christian Forum:

Thank you for your reply.

Yes, the biased and unfair post was made by Emzee... However, you also are making a major false assumption, that if a school is not regionally accredited, it is therefore not accreditated. This is simply untrue. Northwestern Theological Seminary provides a quality education and is accredited by IACEA a Christian accreditor not affiliated or dictated to by government influenced accreditors. Accreditation must not be controlled by the Government or Department of Education in the USA as it is in communist countries.

NTS is offering a quality education. Take a moment to visit their website and open their online degrees page.
Read their Catalog and handbook. NTS even provides the MOODLE online educational management system which is the same system used by major universities.The Northwestern Theological Seminary educational ministry has been in existence for over 30 years while educating and making Christian disciples. NTS has students who have graduated or left Liberty, Fuller and Dallas and who have chose to enroll at NTS for their doctorate and even M.Div. degrees because of the financial savings. Everyone I have communicated with feels that the NTS educational standards are excellent.

The fact is; God is filling a major gap by making seminaries like NTS available for those who cannot afford to pay $50,000 to $150,000 for college of university level education. Without seminaries like Northwestern thousands of students would not be able to receive a seminary education. So do not attack and seek to degrade Northwestern Theological Seminary just because they refuse to align with accrediting agencies that are influenced by the Government and for offering education at a fraction of the cost of such government approved seminaries, just because you may be affiliated with one yourself. There are quality seminaries available online to students who cannot afford to attend major schools with regional accreditation. And NTS is not lazy concerning accreditation, It does not just involve filling out paperwork as you state, such accreditation is very very expensive.

Regional and other government influenced accreditation is BIG business costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Smaller seminaries and online seminaries cannot afford to pay such high costs and still fill the gap in providing quality Christ centered education for those who are financially disadvantaged. Northwestern Theological Seminary is one of the oldest and largest online seminaries because the Lord has blessed NTS for being obedient and offering quality, low cost education to the masses. Furthermore, NTS has hundreds of physical branch seminaries all over the world. Just go to their seminary website to view NTS graduation ceremonies and NTS class pictures in Africa, Philippines, Pakistan, India and South America. many of these over seas branch seminary students attend NTS branches for free.

At NTS their goal; is to obey the Great Commission and they are thus far doing a wonderful job worldwide.
Why would you or any Christian seek to verbally discredit them for making disciples through Christ centered seminary education worldwide. We are proud to have accredited Northwestern Theological Seminary through The International Association for Christian Educational Accountability.

In His Service,

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Rule of thumb: if any academic institution has to go leaps and bounds and has more webpages justifying their shady accreditation (or lack of it) than they do about location, programs, degrees, student life, etc: Don't go there.
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