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Old 16th April 2010, 10:13 AM
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Question Christianity and psychedelic drugs?

Is there any prohibition of entheogens in Christianity? If so, what is the reasoning behind this?

Can psychedelic experiences have spiritual value?

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Old 16th April 2010, 10:21 AM
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Don't know, not been there. With God why the drugs? I just get high on God.
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Old 16th April 2010, 10:27 AM
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Thanks for the answer. Being the in same situation, I am inclined to agree with you.

To be clear, I'm not necessarily endorsing anything, I'm just trying to get a general understanding of Christianity's view on such things. Anyone else have an opinion?
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I don't think any Christian past or present would encourage or condone using entheogens. We all have a normal, default state of mind with which to perceive reality, and altering that state of mind is leaving yourself open to self-deception, especially because the experiences can feel so real. Even with alcohol, you know a drunk man perceives that his jokes and antics are really funny, but sober people around him know they're not.

And a related joke about perception:

Q: What did the hippie say when he ran out of pot?
A: Man, this music sucks.
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No drugs arn't spiritual-in fact it opens up windows for satan.
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Satan resides in the spiritual world, so yes drugs can indeed be spiritual. Just know once you enter into the spirit realm you do not have control as to who may seek you out.

Also we are told in Eph 5 to not get drunk on wine but to be "filled" or (Drunk in some translations) with the Spirit. This is about the closest we get to dealing with drugs specifically. The Idea is not to give control of your mind and faculties to a substance, but to the Holy Spirit of God.
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Can psychedelic experiences have spiritual value?

Possibly, but they rarely seem to have POSITIVE spiritual value. Certainly psychedelics can be fun and can even lead to strange and thought provoking experiences but from my observation and personal experience they really don't help us become better more loving people. The first few times you use psychedelics you may very well get the feeling that it's all so "spiritual" and "meaningful" but generally if you continue using them you realize that it's not really as profound as you once thought it was.
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What psychedelic drugs (DMT in particular) have proven, is that all these "near death experiences", filled with angels and bright lights and "oneness with God", are completely fake and produced by your pineal gland pumping out DMT just before death.

I find it hillarious there are people who still think this is a "mystical experience" or even more so, proof of an afterlife.
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Haha theres a lot of opinions flying around!

Post #7 is spot on. Some of the earlier trips can really seriously influence your life though.

Basically theres a whole lot of people out there looking for "more". The devil loves that, people can be very deep and spiritual and in touch with their god, while completely missing THE God who's been staring them in the face so long they can't see Him anymore (if theyre constantly thinking on the last trip)

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