Was the Old Covenant set aside ???

Hi TO ALL , and there are still many that believe that the 10 commandments are still in effect and say that the Old Covenant is also still in force .

We all believe , that Jesus came to die for mans sins .

In Matt 26:28 , " for this is My blood of the New Covenant , which is shed for MANY for the remission of sins .

How much is MANY ? 1000 , OR 2000 , SO HOW MUCH IS MANY ??

By the way , the Context is still Jewish .

The Jews had rejected the council of God and had then killed their Messiah .

Heb 9:15 , helps explain the why AND THE MANY of Matt 26:28 .

He died for the transgressions that were under the Old Convenant , Heb 9;15 .

This why NO more water baptism , no more 10 commandments , no more ordinances , no more Old Covenant , no tongues .

Really? I don't think it's that simple. For starters, I think baptism was still endorsed in Acts, which is after Jesus' resurrection and ascension. For us, the ten commandments are fulfilled because of Jesus' blood shed on the cross. It does not follow that we have a licence to break the commandments to our heart's content however, because if we are in Christ, we don't have the heart to do anything but live the ten commandments and others. In addition, we are still told to live godly lives if we read the new testament. While the Law cannot condemn us, we are by our new natures to lvie according to what pleases God. As for no tongues, nothing says they will disappear until the 'perfect' comes, which means until we see the Lord return.

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"Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." - C.S. Lewis

All fleshly things of the Old Covenant are shadow representations of that which is eternal in the heavens. We believe in the Spirit, and therefore take the things of Stone and interpret in light of the Spirit. In these things we walk, for the law is love. Love is the fulfillment of the Law, and his commandment is to love one another. The Stone made Flesh is resurrected in the Spirit, not abolished, but fulfilled.

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I could be wrong.

True, water baptism was still a requirement for the remission of sins in early Acts. It was still under the "so called" great commission program to Israel. Also, the Law was still in efffect along with the "middle wall of partition" still standing.

During the earthly ministry of Christ, and prior to Israel being given temporary slumering eyes (Rom. 11:7-12, 25), for one that was a Gentile and who wanted to serve the true and living God of Israel, that one had to become a Jew (proselyte) and place themselves under the Laws of Moses.

Keep in mind that Jesus said "...but I am not come but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matt. 15:24). He also stated: "... that I had not come to to destroy the Law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil" (Matt. 5:17). Further, Paul tells us in Romans 15:8 "Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers."

How did Jesus fulfill the Law? By observing all of it. What promises did He come to fulfill for the nation of Israel? Salvation, and an earthly kingdom. How was He received? Well we learn for the gospels that Israel, as a nation rejected Him and His kingdom. Therefore, God gave Israel temporary slumbering eyes (set aside) Rom. 11:7-12:25) which interrupted the prophetic program to Isreal. God is not longer dealing with Israel as His favorite/special people. (More on this a little later on, but first we must deal with water baptism.)

In Exodus 19:5, 6 that if they (Israel) would keep His covenant, then they would be a nation of priests. For one of Israel to be a priest, the one had to go through a ceremonial washing (baptism), Exod. 30:17-21.

John the Baptist was the forerunner of Jesus. He came to prepare Israel to be that nation of Priest because their King, and High Pries of Israel was soon to arrive. That is why he came baptising.

When we go back to Genesis 12:1-3 we find that the physical seed of Israel was to be a blessing to all the families (nations) of the earth. Israel was to be the light to the Gentiles (Isaiah 42:6; 49:6, 60:3). How can Isreal become a nation of priests, and a light to the Gentiles when they reject their King? Isreal, as a nation, rejected their King and His kingdom by, as Paul tells is in Rom. 10:3, that they tried to establish their own righteousness.

Isreal now is in the same "set aside boat" that God placed the Gentiles back at the Tower of Babel in Genesis 11. "For God concluded them all (Jews and Gentiles) in unbelief that He migh have mercy upon all (Rom. 11:32). With the temporary setting aside of Israel, there is no way that they can become a nations of priests. Which makes water baptism of none effect. It was only meant for the nation of Israel for a specific purpose.

With both Jews and Gentiles now in a set aside condition, How is the good news of the Gospel going to be given to mankind? AH, Our all knowing God knew that all mankind would reject Him. Therefore, prior to creation, God had a plan that would not only defeat Lucifer, but provide a means for all mankind to be saved. This plan was The Cross. Had the princes (Lucifer and his crew) of the world known about it, the would have worked like the devil (figurativly speaking) to keep Christ from the Cross (1 Cor. 2:7, 8).

God raised up Saul/Paul to reveal His secret plan, which we know today as "the mytery". This plan included creating the "one new man" of Eph. 2:15, known today as "the Body of Christ", Jew and Gentile on equal footing, without distinction, and not under the Law.

God gave His instructions in righteousness to the children of Israel through the Laws of Moses. Their salvation was basied on doing the deed/works of the Law by FAITH. Today we have our instructions in righteousness that God gave to us through the Apostle Paul. Our salvation/justifucation is based upon our placing our FAITH ALONE in the Cross work (death, burial, and resurrection [1 Cor. 15:1-4]) of Christ.

The Law was only given to the nation of Israel. When God set her aside, temporarily, the Law, and prophetic program pertaing to Israel is also temporarily set aside. However, both will be restored with the rapture of the Church, the Body of Christ.

When we study the Pauline Epistles for our Christian walk today, we will find that Paul teaches all the precepts of the 10 Commandmants, with the exception of the 4th, i.e. keeping the Sabbath.

Concerning tongues - Paul says in 1 Cor. 13:8 that tongues will cease. In verse 10 says: "But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part will be done away."

"That which is perfect" is not speaking of the return of the Lord. The word "that" is neuter. Jesus is NEVER referred to in the neuter tense in all of Scripture. "That which is perfect" is the completed Word of God. When tongues were in effect the Scriptures were not complete. Therefore God used signs and wonders to show what was of Him.

Paul tells us in Col.1:25 "Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil (make full/complete) the word of God: 26 The Mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is manifested to his saints:"

Since we now have everything that God wants us to know, we no longer need "childish things."

Hope this is helpfull.

God Bless.
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