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Old 29th March 2010, 08:07 PM
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Post Cardinals react to claim of link between celibacy and sexual abuse

Rome, Italy, Mar 29, 2010 / 12:55 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- The comments of three cardinals on the Church's discipline of having celibate priests have been featured widely in the Italian news media in the last 24 hours. Cardinal Walter Kasper, who works at the Vatican, said that tying sexual abuse to celibacy "is a true abuse of the abuses."

Cardinal Walter Kasper, president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, told Italy's La Stampa newspaper in an interview published Monday that "celibacy has nothing to do with the sexual abuses of the clergy against minors."

He underlined that according to the studies of experts, "the very great majority of cases of abuse occur in families and not in ecclesiastic environments."

He added that to call celibacy into question "is a true abuse of the abuses." It continues to conserve its meaning, so there is no need to "take another look at the state of things," especially not at this point in time in a climate "poisoned by the scandals," Cardinal Kasper said.
Continued- http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/cardinals_react_to_claim_of_link_between_celibacy_and_sexual_abuse/
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Old 29th March 2010, 08:10 PM
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Is celebacy so wrong that people have to lie and tie it to more irrational things?
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Old 29th March 2010, 08:21 PM
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Sounds like when people were claiming a link between abstinence and fornication back in the day. I guess some souls don't appreciate and/or understand the beauty of virtue and the ugly vices they fight against.
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Old 29th March 2010, 08:25 PM
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if the inability to be married is the problem, then I'd imagine they'd be on a bunch of liaisons with women instead of children.
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Old 3rd April 2010, 12:40 AM
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Then you must blame fathers who abuse their children sexually on the wives???

Do the wives of child molesters failed to please their husbands?

Celibacy might play a part but not a directo one. Celibacy does limit the quantity of available priest so makes harder for the Church to fire the bad oness.
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Old 3rd April 2010, 12:42 AM
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if the inability to be married is the problem, then I'd imagine they'd be on a bunch of liaisons with women instead of children.
Exactly what I was just thinking!
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I think there's a link between men and sexual abuse.

Let's ban men. They're clearly horrible and they can't be trusted.
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Old 3rd April 2010, 08:47 AM
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Someone whose sexual orientation is 'disordered' because of genetic predisposition, environment, or other factors, striving for holiness, and striving to live in an environment where there are fewer temptations towards surrendering to the disorder, will naturally be attracted to the priesthood.

But because the disorder is still there, however mightily the person with the disorder is striving to overcome it, even to the point of choosing a vocation where he would be close to God and, hopefully, free of temptations, there is danger.

And because of social stigmas (which, admittedly, are less prevalent today) young men with disordered thinking did not have a real alternative. Their alternative was living a clandestine life in the shadows.

Statistics show that celibacy was not as attractive to heterosexual men who had 'alternatives' as it was to gay men (I am not saying that the priesthood has more gay men than straight men, but that gay men are disproportionately represented in the priesthood, according to statistics.)

And, hallelujah, most gay priests were successful in leading celibate lives and becoming sensitive, holy, gifted priests whom we are all fortunate to have serving us.

But I do believe that celibacy is much more attractive to those with personal demons striving for holiness and striving to live in an environment where there are fewer temptations to stray.
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I thought the link was homosexuals and sex abuse? It's really becuase of celibacy ? Oh okay...
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I thought the link was homosexuals and sex abuse? It's really becuase of celibacy ? Oh okay...
My post was about the likelihood that those to whom celibacy is appealing are often those who are striving towards holiness but who see no moral alternatives that will lead them to holiness in other ways of life. Many people find holiness in marriage and family, but that door is not open to them as it is to heterosexual men.
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